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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 02:13 PM
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ok... the key ignition was replaced and was working fine for about 6 months. now the key turns but nothing happens. when i turn the key to the start pos. it dosnt spring back like its supposed to. when i talked to the locksmith he said that it might be some kind of gear or something. any ideas? :confused:
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Anybody? :confused:
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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on the back ot the key cylender ther is a gear, this gear rides on a rack that when the key is turned pulls up on a rod to operate the ignition switch that is mounted on the steering column down near the base. it sounds like the gear on the lock cylender has come off or maybe the ignition switch is bad.
Does it start if you turn the key to the start position?

Steve :steering:
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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look in corvettefaq for the Jim Shea articles on steering and you will find information on the column.
http://www.corvettefaq.com/listing.asp?group=7

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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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on the back ot the key cylender ther is a gear, this gear rides on a rack that when the key is turned pulls up on a rod to operate the ignition switch that is mounted on the steering column down near the base. it sounds like the gear on the lock cylender has come off or maybe the ignition switch is bad.
Does it start if you turn the key to the start position?

Steve :steering:

nothing happens when i turn the key
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 03:57 PM
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Sounds like the gear on the back of the ignition cylinder has come off (loose).

As said above there is lots of valuable information in Jim Shea's papers

Steve :steering:
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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There is a short piece of linkage at the end of the rod that's part of the ignition. That linkage broke on my car (the day after I bought it) and it did exactly what you're discribing.
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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 09:19 PM
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So how hard is that to replace/fix??
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 07:57 AM
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I can't find a blow up picture on the net of a steering column, but you have to pull the column and take it apart. The hard part of the job was finding the part. My local GM dealer finally found one that was NOS in Georgia. If you have the same problem, you might have to get it from a Corvette wrecking yard. I'd have a good locksmith check everything else before you go tearing into the column, because it is a tedious job.
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I can't find a blow up picture on the net of a steering column,.
there's one here by Jim Shea and another that describes the procedure.
http://www.corvettefaq.com/c3/T&TBlowupRev05NO03.jpg
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I can't tell from the diagram which piece it is. The one I thought it was is a bolt. Maybe somebody else will know. It's been 4 or five years since I did it. It seems like it was a piece of barstock, about two inches long with ears on it. I can't remember if the ears broke off or the piece itself broke. I'm not much help here, sorry. Maybe somebody else can remember better than I can.
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 10:58 PM
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um...is this someting i should take to a mechanic or try myself. looks like a PITA.
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 03:28 AM
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um...is this someting i should take to a mechanic or try myself. looks like a PITA.
Everythings a PITA on these cars......you should go for it yourself.....hey, it's not like you can drive it to a mechanic anyway....and besides, you may surprise yourself on how easy it is to fix.......just remember to arm yourself with plenty of info.......and.......disconnect the battery first :thumbs:
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Had this happen to me.
The key will turn freely in the ignition and nothing will happen.

Part number 37 on the above diagram will break. It's called a "rack" and on one end it has gearing on it which mate to a gear turned by the lock cylinder. It's a standard GM replacement part. I have seen a replacement kit at Autozone in the section where there are the miscellaneous replacement parts (brake pedal pads, window cranks, exhaust bolts). I think it's labeled with GM Rack??? $5 - $10 kit if I remember right (comes complete with the rack, the gear and the spring)
It's a PITA to replace but it can be done. Take the steering colume apart following a hayne's manual or what's on the forum. Get the broken part out so you know what your looking for.
Good luck!
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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thanks guys for all the info. just last one thing...do i need any special tools to get the wheel and colume. TIA
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