Any down side to head studs ?
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Any down side to head studs ?
Read a thread awhile back about head studs and some didn't like them for some reason I can't remeber, possibly you can't remove the heads in the car because you can't pull the head far enough to clear the studs ?
While I'm on the topic any opinions on ARP main studs, kinda need them for windage tray ?
While I'm on the topic any opinions on ARP main studs, kinda need them for windage tray ?
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Re: Any down side to head studs ? (MotorHead)
That's the downside with studs....don't know about SBC, but BBC, it's impossible to remove the left head with studs, but the upside, you save wear and tear on the block...that is if you are constantly R&R the heads, if you don't, and this is a one shot deal, then I would think studs is a waste of $$$$$.
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Re: Any down side to head studs ? (GDaina)
:iagree:
The only down side I've heard is having to lift the head over the studs to remove and hopefully having the clearance for the head (things you knew ;) ).
IMHO, you'll be fine with studs on the mains (don't know if you could run into oil pan clearance though). I may also go that route if my oil pan (still need to get) doesn't have a windage tray attached to it :)
The only down side I've heard is having to lift the head over the studs to remove and hopefully having the clearance for the head (things you knew ;) ).
IMHO, you'll be fine with studs on the mains (don't know if you could run into oil pan clearance though). I may also go that route if my oil pan (still need to get) doesn't have a windage tray attached to it :)
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Re: Any down side to head studs ? (gkull)
Thanks for the replies, was looking at my motor and the only clearance problem I can see is the brake booster.
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Re: Any down side to head studs ? (gkull)
I have to agree with Gkull, I also run a fully studded engine and the tall troublesome studs have provisions for a small allen wrench to facilitate removal . It is a personal choice I agree but a wise one indeed if you make power !!
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Re: Any down side to head studs ? (ram82fire)
I have to agree with Gkull, I also run a fully studded engine and the tall troublesome studs have provisions for a small allen wrench to facilitate removal . It is a personal choice I agree but a wise one indeed if you make power !!
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Re: Any down side to head studs ? (MotorHead)
:lol: Cost. I think they are bit more expensive and a lot more effort to initially install. Racers use them because they are much faster to disassemble and then reassemble the engine with. If you remove and replace your heads allot then studs with solid copper head gaskets are the way to go. If you pull the heads only once between engine builds, not worth it. :yesnod:
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Re: Any down side to head studs ? (MotorHead)
I have my motor complete studded also, It ran about $430 for everything but they are a pain. For trial fitups stick with the bolts. Removing mains from studs is not easy, Checking head clearances is also a pain with studs, the head just does not slide up and down easily.
Studs are alot stronger then bolts plus easier on the block.
Beware of problems with the lower set of studs under the heads. Often these hit the headers and don't allow them to seat.
Studs are alot stronger then bolts plus easier on the block.
Beware of problems with the lower set of studs under the heads. Often these hit the headers and don't allow them to seat.
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Re: Any down side to head studs ? (norvalwilhelm)
No problem about using bolts for the initial checking. I think I need the studs for the windage tray and would probably go with bolts for the heads but I can get a set of studs pretty cheap right now that is why I wanted to know the pros and cons about them.
I figure I will be making enough HP with the new 406ci so I am going use ARP bolts and studs on everything.
I figure I will be making enough HP with the new 406ci so I am going use ARP bolts and studs on everything.
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Re: Any down side to head studs ? (MotorHead)
I even stud my oil pan with long stainless set screws and studs on the valve covers really helps, Just slide the gasket over the studs, install the valve cover and install the nuts. It is really a good idea to put studs for the valve covers.
I even put studs in the bellhousing for the transmission. It makes installation easy, slide the transmission over the studs and it holds it in place while the nuts are started and helps support the weight.
I even put studs in the bellhousing for the transmission. It makes installation easy, slide the transmission over the studs and it holds it in place while the nuts are started and helps support the weight.
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Re: Any down side to head studs ? (norvalwilhelm)
G-Man was refering to studs that come with an allen head on one end. You have to get the correct part number to get those. I have the set of stud sockets for R&R. I got them from Harbor Frieght tools for under $20 on the internet.
Exhaust header studs are the only way to go also.
Exhaust header studs are the only way to go also.
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Re: Any down side to head studs ? (gkull)
arp head studs come with an allen head end to make removal much simpeler, just like Gman says. I too have studs everywhere, from mains to heads, from pan to valvecovers, even the bellhousing, the exhaust manifolds, the water pump... you name it I probably have studs in there.