Survivor Questions
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Racer
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From: Glendale AZ
Survivor Questions
I see some posts that talk about "survivors". Is there a real definiton of this or just kind of losely used. Does this mean the car is still in good shape but has never been restored? How old does a car have to be to qualify?
Just curious. All the best in 2004.
David :confused:
Just curious. All the best in 2004.
David :confused:
Drifting
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Re: Survivor Questions (pdgourno)
Survivor is an award given by Bloomington Gold. According to Bloomington Gold, "Survivor corvettes have been judged to be significantly unrestored, unrepaired or unmodified and still remain highly useful as historic references." Survivors must meet four criteria: 1. At least 20 years old. 2. Complete 40 mile road test. 3. Appear over 50% unrestored or unmodified in three of following four areas: paint/fiberglass exterior (70%), interior, engine compartment, chasis. 4. Be in the best interest of research not to improve/restore. This information was taken from an 1997 information sheet so some things may have changed.
Drifting
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Re: Survivor Questions (pdgourno)
:iagree: And I believe that the NCRS wanted to slow down the wholesale restoration of cars that had a few scratches or very minor flaws. Some original survivors were being judged against the full restos and were not appreciated, even through they in effect were "originals" and not remakes. Thus, the survivor class. I believe these are starting to command higher prices as true originals. Just my 2 cents.
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Racer
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Re: Survivor Questions (pdgourno)
Thanks for the information about survivors. I never would have guessed it was an award or was nailed down that tight.
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Re: Survivor Questions (pdgourno)
My Orange '74(Bloomington Survivor '94) and my Silver '68(Bloomington Survivor '03)are "Survivor Award" cars. The judges are pretty good at making calls on the paint and engine compartment. Maintenance items such as tires, shocks, batteries, exhausts, belts & hoses, filters are knowingly "not gonna be original"(although many of your low mile cars will have many of these parts "original"), the judges overlook these parts and look for "UNRESTORED" paint, interiors, chassis and engine compartments. Survivors can be in mint to nice original condition to many cars in weathered and deteriorated shape but still be "original". This is what I enjoy about Survivor, to see how the cars have aged, some more gracefully than others :D
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Re: Survivor Questions (Paul Borowski)
I look at my 69 project being a survivor car. This is due to the fact that it survived from being turned into a parts car :lol: :lol:
I'm on the long jounrey of bringing it back form the dead. $$$$$$$ What was I thinking. :crazy:
I'm having fun and can't wait to say "It's alive" :thumbs:
I'm on the long jounrey of bringing it back form the dead. $$$$$$$ What was I thinking. :crazy:
I'm having fun and can't wait to say "It's alive" :thumbs:
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Re: Survivor Questions (Mr D.)
As noted above, the "real definition" of survivor in the corvette hobby is a trademark award by Bloomington Gold. The similar judging of original unrestored cars by NCRS is called "Bowtie". But also, the term "survivor" is thrown around a lot by sellers to enhance the value of their poorly maintained deteriorated old heap of junk! In that context it simply means that the car has "survived" conditions that send most cars to the junkyard. :lol:
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Re: Survivor Questions (pdgourno)
A true "Survivor" that has been judged at Bloomington will have a certificate with a reference number, along with a window decal. ( I lost mine)..................LT