Do-It-Yourself Painters
Le Mans Master
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From: San Diego CA
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (NOTHIN'LIKE'A'69')
NW it looks fantastic!!!!!!!!!
You have my deepest respect becuase you do everything yourself with great results. Anyone can shell out $$$ and get anything doen, loook at Merlin but man your paint, suspension mods. I wish i was blessed with 1/2 your mechanical ability.
:thumbs:
Race Director
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From: In Dreams There Is Truth Ohio
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (73'Vette)
Le Mans Master
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Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (GDaina)
. . . Self contained air supply complete with mask and compressor costs between 1200-1500 bucks....chump change compared to the cost of a funeral. For your own good, consult a someone in the medical profession and get their opinion of the chemicals you will be dealing with, and the consequences you will suffer if that crap gets into your lungs.
One word of advice, if you can't afford the proper safety equipment, then save your sheckles till you can. Don't kill yourself to save a few bucks.
One word of advice, if you can't afford the proper safety equipment, then save your sheckles till you can. Don't kill yourself to save a few bucks.
Melting Slicks
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From: Rochester Kent
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (norvalwilhelm)
Norvalwilhelm,
That is a fantastic looking paint job :cool: . How much painting experiance did you have prior to staring that paint job. I have tried painting smaller things, but never had the confidence to take on large projects. :rolleyes:
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That is a fantastic looking paint job :cool: . How much painting experiance did you have prior to staring that paint job. I have tried painting smaller things, but never had the confidence to take on large projects. :rolleyes:
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Drifting
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From: Oxford CT
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (rponfick)
I did my 71 exactly the same way and it came out great! All it take is a afternoon to put all the plastic, filters and fans together and you have a usable paint booth!
Yes, you can do it yourself. The last one I did using BC/CC, I built a paint booth in my garage by hanging visqueen plastic sheeting from the ceiling. On one end I made a frame door out of Sears filter material for air intake. On the other end, I lowered my garage door down to about 2ft. and placed two box window fans to exhaust the fumes. Wet down the floor prior to each spray, and it worked perfectly. Very little dust or particles.
I agree renting a paint booth would be great. But, since I like to take my time and paint different parts at different times, it was not feasible. Also, you can do primer and sand, more primer and sand. And then base coat and then clear coat. I like to do the doors, conv. panel, small grills and other misc. parts separate from the main car.
Go for it. :cheers:
I agree renting a paint booth would be great. But, since I like to take my time and paint different parts at different times, it was not feasible. Also, you can do primer and sand, more primer and sand. And then base coat and then clear coat. I like to do the doors, conv. panel, small grills and other misc. parts separate from the main car.
Go for it. :cheers:
Team Owner
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From: eville in
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (Roadster71)
i am all for DIY just do it safely :thumbs: i did a lac. job on a corvair in 83
used fans, filters etc, the guys dog got a "fiat red" tint to him :withstupid: dog was in the yard behind the window we were venting out of :withstupid: :withstupid: :withstupid: dog OK may have lost a yr or so
but it was Lac. and he was 15ft. away
used fans, filters etc, the guys dog got a "fiat red" tint to him :withstupid: dog was in the yard behind the window we were venting out of :withstupid: :withstupid: :withstupid: dog OK may have lost a yr or so
but it was Lac. and he was 15ft. away
Cruising
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From: Sikeston mo
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (73'Vette)
I painted my own vette using the air compressor (cambell hansfield) brand and heavy duty spray gun that you can buy at wal-mart. the compressor was about 250 and the gun was around 40-50 bucks. i used the cartridge type air mask that has the two cartridges that screw in on each side of mask, not sure brand type. I was looking at using the base coat and clear coat type paint to get the depth and shine. I am not a profesional painter by a long shot. I had painted 1 truck pryer to this using a enamel paint. turned out fine but was looking for a better finish. At paint store I told them what I was looking for (base/clear coat). since I am really a beginner they talked me in to using a acrylic urethane paint. It is easy to mix (paint/hardener/reducer) and is sprayed without a clearcoat. I was very impressed with this paint, it went on easy covered great and has a great shine, nothing like the enamel. didnt even have to buff either. I was very impressed with the finish. When I decide to paint my truck I will use again. It was the ppg brand paint, I dont remeber the actual cost for paint/hardener/reducer, but say was 500bucks or less. This is what I tried and it worked for me. good luck. :seeya
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (GDaina)
I've read two different opinions about using products with isocyanates in them (BC/CC urethane paints mainly). Some say that you should only use them with a supplied air system, while others say that an organic vapor type respirator will suffice, assuming you change the filters frequently.
Self contained air supply complete with mask and compressor costs between 1200-1500 bucks....chump change compared to the cost of a funeral. .
Self contained air supply complete with mask and compressor costs between 1200-1500 bucks....chump change compared to the cost of a funeral. .
Don't you think i'll be ok if i paint outside and use a respirator with the urethanes?
Race Director
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From: In Dreams There Is Truth Ohio
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (turtlevette)
GDaina,
Don't you think i'll be ok if i paint outside and use a respirator with the urethanes?
Don't you think i'll be ok if i paint outside and use a respirator with the urethanes?
Melting Slicks
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From: I may be getting old but I refuse to grow up
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (GDaina)
GDaina,
Don't you think i'll be ok if i paint outside and use a respirator with the urethanes?
I won't go near BC/CC without a fresh air supply wheather painting indoors or outdoors...value my life too much. The guys that used a respirator may say they feel no ill affects, that is today, but talk to them 10, 15 years from now.
Don't you think i'll be ok if i paint outside and use a respirator with the urethanes?
I won't go near BC/CC without a fresh air supply wheather painting indoors or outdoors...value my life too much. The guys that used a respirator may say they feel no ill affects, that is today, but talk to them 10, 15 years from now.
Autobodystore.com is a good place for information (Rebecca the respirator girl works for a safety company)
Steve :steering:
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Racer
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From: Haslet,Texas
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (stpman)
Wow! Thanks everyone for some really good advice. I still have alot of mechanical work to do before I'm ready to paint, so I have some time to think about what I'm going to do. From the responses, I think that it's definitely possible for me (a beginner) to get a decent paintjob done. The things I have decide on are what type of paints to use, and also what sort of booth setup to make. Oh, and also how I am going to get Norval to come to Texas to do the spraying! :lol:
Race Director
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (73'Vette)
Oh, and also how I am going to get Norval to come to Texas to do the spraying!
I am not a good sprayer. I have painted about 1/2 dozen motor cyles and a few winter beater cars.
The secret is preperation before hand and alot of wet sanding/buffing afterwards.
Almost anything can be hidden with enough wet sanding. And wet sanding is just labor.
'A good horse would get me to texas. Not a woman, not cars but a good horse. :lol: :lol:
I am not a good sprayer. I have painted about 1/2 dozen motor cyles and a few winter beater cars.
The secret is preperation before hand and alot of wet sanding/buffing afterwards.
Almost anything can be hidden with enough wet sanding. And wet sanding is just labor.
'A good horse would get me to texas. Not a woman, not cars but a good horse. :lol: :lol:
Cruising
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From: Sikeston mo
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (73'Vette)
I am not to sure about doing the painting outside. Due to dust/bugs/trash in air getting on finish before has time to dry. And not knowing how close you are going to be to other houses or cars, you can get carry over to these other vehicles with any kind of wiind. I painted mine in my garage at the house, I had placed the plastic around the garage like (rponfick) had done. This still wont keep you from getting paint on other items in garage that is behind plastic. I had placed a box fan in the window in garage blowing outside to help remove paint fumes. paint will carry because when got done the fan was color of car :eek: I really had good luck with the acrylic urethane paint, impressed with finish. Will use again.
Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (hile62)
I am not to sure about doing the painting outside. Due to dust/bugs/trash in air getting on finish before has time to dry. .
I am just not that picky about my car. Its gonna look killer from a distance no matter how many bugs land in it. If i feel up to it, i'll sand and buff all those things out, just like Norval said. And as far as going to the vette club show and shines to be critiqued, it aint gonna happen. I am a racer and i drive my car in New England winters and i beat the hell out of it.
Bring on more sand and rocks! Bring um on.
No way i'd ever pay more than 500 bucks to paint this car. So i can go to MACCO and get an ok looking paint job with crappy enamel paint or i can spend 300 bucks on durable wet looking paint and give it a whirl myself.
BTW i did a Dupont chroma job on it in 91 outside in my driveway, and it still looks great other than a few spots where the clear has worn through.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Milford NH
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (73'Vette)
I have read somewhere (not sure where) that before you paint, wet down your garage floor. During painting, keep it damp, this helps prevent dust from being kicked up. Also, if you have a window and a door, put a window fan in each with a filter. One blowing in and one blowing out. That is all I remember. I will try to remember the article I read and post it.
Burning Brakes
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From: Silver Spring, Md.
Re: Do-It-Yourself Painters (73'Vette)
Corey, I've been following this thread because since I've done just about everything elso on my Vette, why not the paint-maybe. So I found a really decent book in the past year called "How To Paint Your Car", by Parks and Jacobs, published by Motorbooks. VERY informative and will give everything you need for basic knowledge, the rest can be gleaned from our painting buds here on the board. Now I will at least be able to ask some intelligent questions. For a first timer it covers everthing: paint chemistry, supporting products, tools, materials, safety, bodywork, surface prep, masking, paint application, detailing, etc. After reading this you'll know what needs to be done and how, just need the experience and advice to get over the hump. One thing, unfortunately, nothing regarding our Vettes! I guess this is a FYI.