390HP 427 question
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From: phoenix az
390HP 427 question
Hello all! I have a friend that is trying to trade some stuff for a 390HP 427 motor supposedly out of a vette. He said that he verified the numbers and it is out of a 67. What would a verifiable 390HP 427 of this vintage be worth? He wants to put it in a pickup but if it's what he thinks it is would it be worth more to someone who needs it for a resto? I'm wondering if he might be able to sell it for enough to get himself a good crate motor. I have no idea what a 390 motor is comprised of so any comments are welcome.
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From: In Dreams There Is Truth Ohio
Re: 390HP 427 question (BubbaJJ)
Only one person would be interested in that motor, that person would be the owner of the 67 that the motor came out of. To think that that motor will make another 67 numbers matching is plain ludicrous. The engine pad numbers will be different to the vin numbers.
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Re: 390HP 427 question (bb69)
Very touchy subjec regarding restamped blocks...the point is we can dance around the mullbery bush all we want, and say a rose is a rose by any other name, justify a non matching vin number on the engine pad. The point is this... the NCRS guys, the high dollar rollers who buy matching number cars for investment purposes, consider the original engine is the engine that came with the car, and the vin and engine stamp match.
The used car dealer will dispute this and claim any engine will do (same displacement) as long as the casting dates fall within a certain range. How else can they make the claim as matching numbers to the uninformed consumer and sell the car.
The used car dealer will dispute this and claim any engine will do (same displacement) as long as the casting dates fall within a certain range. How else can they make the claim as matching numbers to the uninformed consumer and sell the car.
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Re: 390HP 427 question (BubbaJJ)
There's a diference between a correct motor and a numbers matching motor. A correct motor is one with a correct stamp such that it fits the timeframe from which a particular corvette was built. For example there were a certain number of 390 hp 427s made for 67 vettes and those motors are 'correct' as in they are right motor for that year vette and were built for that production run, however a matching numbers motor, while a 'correct' motor, is also the original motor that came in the car and matches the frame numbers. This motor is of value to the owner of the matching frame. A correct motor has some value, but not that of the original matchin numbers motor.
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From: Holly MI
Re: 390HP 427 question (GDaina)
GDaina,
I have to disagree. There are many people that have said an engine with the correct date codes is important. So many cars had engines removed, many will never find THE engine, and it could have been restamped. So, they are left with engines made in the right timeframe. I'm not an NCRS type, but I have followed the discussions a little and believe this to be the case.
That being said, for most of us, it's basic BB.
Ken
I have to disagree. There are many people that have said an engine with the correct date codes is important. So many cars had engines removed, many will never find THE engine, and it could have been restamped. So, they are left with engines made in the right timeframe. I'm not an NCRS type, but I have followed the discussions a little and believe this to be the case.
That being said, for most of us, it's basic BB.
Ken
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Re: 390HP 427 question (bb69)
That date code stuff and stamps has been discussed way in the past (by me among others). MUCH of that stuff can be faked and there are pros that specialize in it. It's definitely a "buyer beware" and "buyer prepare to get reamed/ripped" situation.
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