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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 01:53 AM
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Okie i know there are other threads on this but they are not very clear on which to choose. I have a 1979 corvette and am looking at Vette Brakes and Products rear springs because it seems mutal on here there is no change in stock height. My question is what pound rating is the best? This is the question that no one ever answers.
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Originally Posted by NotPopz
Okie i know there are other threads on this but they are not very clear on which to choose. I have a 1979 corvette and am looking at Vette Brakes and Products rear springs because it seems mutual on here there is no change in stock height. My question is what pound rating is the best? This is the question that no one ever answers.
I am running the 340 lb rate spring on my 1980. My 1980 is a bit lighter than the '79, and I drive "aggressively" and don't mind a stiff ride.
I would think a 320 - 340 would work fine, in my opinion.

Make sure to get the right shocks to go with it.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by NotPopz
Okie i know there are other threads on this but they are not very clear on which to choose. I have a 1979 corvette and am looking at Vette Brakes and Products rear springs because it seems mutal on here there is no change in stock height. My question is what pound rating is the best? This is the question that no one ever answers.


For 79 spring GM# 462598 was specified rated at 307 lb/in @1325 design load. Now, this is the heavy-duty spring while in contrast the standard 9-leaf spring was rated in the range of 196 lb/inc at 1420 lb. A 340 lb/in spring would be pretty stiff!
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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You can not compare a steel spring rating to a fibergalss spring rating because the 2 springs act differently. Fiberglass springs flex a lot more than steel springs.

When a customer asks me what spring rate should I get, I ask them what kind of driving do you like to do. Do you drive your vette hard and like going into turns fast or are you just a weekend warrior driver? Do you plan to autx or drag?

A 330lb spring is a good all around spring for cruising and getting on it once in awhile. If your drag racing the car your going to want to get a stiffer spring so you eliminate squat as much as possible. So than you would go with at least a 360lb spring. You can also get custom spring rates if you want something in the middle. Currently you can get a 300, 330, 360 or 420 lb spring. If you call us, Van Steel, or VBP we can get you any spring rate. Custom spring rates are available as well like a 320 or a 350lb spring rate.

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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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Thank you now this post has made it clear for me.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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Just to stir things up a bit, if you get the adjustable dual point mounting, you can change the spring rate (somewhat). I.e., the inner mount results in a softer rate, the outermost mounting point stiffens the rate, etc. Right?
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Not to keep stirring but...

I am in need of a rear spring ( I know, I keep saying this and haven't replaced it yet- October. Really.)
How does the dual mount spring work with a non-dual mount front end? I have the VBP 550 lb front springs and complete poly front end. I'm happy with it- considering going with the dual mount rear or a 420# poly spring. Car is a '79 DD (aggressive driving a must!) that will be doing an auto-X a month or so all summer long. Any input? Thanks!
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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Van Steel,

Is there a lowering package out there for the C3? I am looking for about a 2" drop all the way around and I would like to purchase a package that would allow me to do this. I like stiff ride but not too stiff if that makes any since.
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I have the dual mount and would never
go back to a single spring! they are exspensive,
but you can adjust it any way you want, ride height to.
It's like buying all spring rates you need in one package
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Z-Man
You are correct.

Evil_1979
I think you'll be better off with the dual mount rear spring. I also think a 420 lb spring is going to be way to much for your application. Thats more for a car that has very high HP and mostly for drag. Your best bet is the dual mount. It will work fine w/your 550's up front.

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Longer spring bolts will drop your rear. You have a couple of options up front. Cut coils, semi-coilover-they can get you to about 26 1/6 from center of wheel well lip to ground, or transverse front spring.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Could you explain the semicoilovers? I have heard some talk abuot them but never saw pics or any other info. I guess QA1 makes them? Is there any modding needed to make them fit?
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Yes they are QA1 semi-coilovers. Here's a link w/some pics. They are not the greatest but you'll get the gist of things.

http://www.vansteel.com/photos/index...slideshow&e=16

You'll see a black **** on the bottom of the shock. It's a 12 point adjustment. Turn it to the right and the shock will get tighter and vs to the left. All you have to do is remove the shock bolt nuts off of your lower a-arm and drill the hole to a 3/8" ID and install them like you would a regular coil spring. You will notice how the spring "V's". This is a variable rated spring. When your driving straight(on a SB) the spring rate will be 265lbs and as you corner the spring stiffens and it goes to 365lb. BB springs are 365/465.

There is an article in the new Corvette Enthusaist about them. We actually did the article on my vette, an 80, and it only took a couple of hours. I used to have the front transverse spring but was unhappy w/it. This has made a big improvement in my ride quality and cornering especially. Some like the idea and some don't but to say the least I am very happy with them. I also have 12 point adjustable rear shocks that will work with steel or composite springs.
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Originally Posted by NotPopz
Okie i know there are other threads on this but they are not very clear on which to choose. I have a 1979 corvette and am looking at Vette Brakes and Products rear springs because it seems mutal on here there is no change in stock height. My question is what pound rating is the best? This is the question that no one ever answers.
It's kind of subjective depending on the type of driving you want to do and how stiff you like your ride. I'm using a 330-lb with AC Delco Reactek shocks and I'm very pleased with the ride. Mine's a convertible so there could be some difference between the weight of a coupe vs. convertible in the rear, too.
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vansteel,

how much do the simi-coils cost?
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Why are they considered semi-coilovers? What is the difference between the QA1s and a real coilover?
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Originally Posted by lostpatrolman
Why are they considered semi-coilovers? What is the difference between the QA1s and a real coilover?
Well, the semi-coilovers go around the shock, but only in one direction...
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Originally Posted by NotPopz
I have a 1979 corvette and am looking at Vette Brakes and Products rear springs because it seems mutal on here there is no change in stock height.
Just to make sure you do know fiberglass rear leaf springs have adjustable heights don't you? This is especially true if you buy longer adjustment bolts.
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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Van Steel,

Is there a lowering package out there for the C3? I am looking for about a 2" drop all the way around and I would like to purchase a package that would allow me to do this. I like stiff ride but not too stiff if that makes any since.
You can buy a kit, but cheaper to just buy longer bolts (NAPA has them).
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Originally Posted by lostpatrolman
Why are they considered semi-coilovers? What is the difference between the QA1s and a real coilover?
A true coilover has eyelts on top and bottom. Like your rear shocks. On a true coilover the coil spring is inbetween the eyelets and has a "cup" on the bottom and top. Since our cars are not set up to run front shocks w/eyelets we have a semi coilover.
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