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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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I have a 67 small block and have had the copper oil pressure line (that leaves the rear of the block, and goes to the oil pressure gauge) snap on me twice now, right at the block fitting. Aside from the mess, I have been fortunate enough to notice the drop in oil pressure before I lost the engine. Does anyone have a fix or upgrade for this? Vibration appears to be the culprit. I've tried to loop the line and it didn't help. It has snapped twice now in 2 years. Help please!!!!

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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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Copper lines shouldnt be used. They fatigue very easily. Either stick with the plastic line, or get a braided one.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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The 1963-67 line was copper but that was changed to plastic 1968 through 1973. I suspect you are experiencing the reason for the change. I would modify to plastic.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by paul67
The 1963-67 line was copper but that was changed to plastic 1968 through 1973. I suspect you are experiencing the reason for the change. I would modify to plastic.
your kidding!? My 68 has a curly copper line. Have not had any problems with it so far....
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PRND21
your kidding!? My 68 has a curly copper line. Have not had any problems with it so far....
Just a guess but I think there is a hint here. I wonder if a
small loop or 2 before connecting to the engine might avoid
the stress that is causing it to break.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jerrymcb
Just a guess but I think there is a hint here. I wonder if a
small loop or 2 before connecting to the engine might avoid
the stress that is causing it to break.
definitely - mine is wound up almost like a spring where it comes off the block. Also, mine is not original, but it has some age to it.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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I'm thinking the same thing as others. Maybe winding the copper tubing like a spring just off the block might help it take the stress better providing the replacement line has enough slack. My '72 has plastic tubing and it did crack right at the fitting on the block. I replaced the fitting at the block with a 45 degree compression fitting which gave it a less stressful, straighter shot at the firewall. You might try this as well. Funny thing is every time I go to the local dragstrip (NHRA), they ding me on the plastic tubing. They insist I change it to a metal tubing. So far, I've resisted. Charles
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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(Using my best Cliff Clavin immitation) - This is a common misconception.

The original lines were not copper but copper plated steel. They will be magnetic if you put a magnet up to them. The copper line will work harden due to vibration over time and crack as you have already found out. You need a steel or plastic line as a replacement.

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There might be a hint on configuration in this pic. (Copyright Dr. Rebuild, Catalogue Volume 27.)

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wow! never thought there would be so much interesting stuff to learn about the oil guage line...
1. I will check mine with a magnet to see if it is copper or copper plated steel.
2. Mako72. Tech actually looks under your engine and checks your oil line?? They don't even raise my hood!
3. "original coil" eh? interesting. wonder if there is a pic in the AIM..

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When connecting the oil pressure line in my '68 I saw that the original setup called for a copper line running directly from the engine to the gauge inside. For fear of dealing with the same problem you are experiencing, I went with a '69 style oil line connection. This uses a copper line about 1' long that connects from the pressur tap hole from the engine near the oil filter, and leads up to a bracket that mounts to the back of the cylinder head. Attached to the bracket is a fitting that connects the copper line to a black plastic line. The black plastic line leads into the passenger compartment and connects to the the gauge. I debated about the "Factory correct" installation vs. making the upgrade, but the fear of hot engine oil spilling all over hot exhaust manifolds won out over "FCR".

The black plastic line will tolerate much more flexing as the engine moves and vibrates than will a copper line. Copper has a tendency to work harden as it flexes causing it to become brittle over time.

The '69 up oil line kit is available from Paragon.
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Thanks for the input guys... I'll replace the line with the copper plated steel from Paragon.
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Originally Posted by PRND21
your kidding!? My 68 has a curly copper line. Have not had any problems with it so far....
My '68 (built in April of '68) has the plastic line.
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Could be the line is being over-torqued, too. That will weaken it and allow vibration breakage. Does not require Godzilla torque setting, just a good snug fit.
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hehehe I DO have a tendency to tighten stuff till it breaks and then back off 1/4 turn...
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Originally Posted by LemansBlue68
When connecting the oil pressure line in my '68 I saw that the original setup called for a copper line running directly from the engine to the gauge inside. For fear of dealing with the same problem you are experiencing, I went with a '69 style oil line connection. This uses a copper line about 1' long that connects from the pressur tap hole from the engine near the oil filter, and leads up to a bracket that mounts to the back of the cylinder head. Attached to the bracket is a fitting that connects the copper line to a black plastic line. The black plastic line leads into the passenger compartment and connects to the the gauge. I debated about the "Factory correct" installation vs. making the upgrade, but the fear of hot engine oil spilling all over hot exhaust manifolds won out over "FCR".

The black plastic line will tolerate much more flexing as the engine moves and vibrates than will a copper line. Copper has a tendency to work harden as it flexes causing it to become brittle over time.

The '69 up oil line kit is available from Paragon.
I ordered one of those and was trying to figure out how it was installed...thanks!
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dang! mine is copper (non-magnetic)

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