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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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1978 Vette 350, .030 over, roller cam, roller tappets, RR's, Proform Dist, Edel. Performer intake, 650 elec. choke carb, the rest is stock

So here's the story: Car overheated big time on the interstate a while back. Cracked the radiator and pissed me off royally. Now there is a clicking noise coming from under the intake. Its not the RR's, and all the crossbars on the roller tappets are good. What could cause the clicking? Rounded lobe on camshaft? Main bearing? Cam bearing?

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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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When does the clicking occur? Is it constant? Does it speed up with the engine rpm? Does it appear when letting off the gas? Is it there at an idle?
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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The clicking is there all the time, it does speed up with RPM and gets louder the heavier I hit the gas. Most noticeable at idle(no exhaust noise then)
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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you did not mention the lifters?
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 10:49 PM
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Thats what I meant by tappets, the lifters
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 12:47 AM
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Had the exact same thing happen to my 80 a year or so ago...turns out it was a stuck (compressed) lifter. Gave me an excuse to upgrade my cam. When you described the noise I could just hear it...drives me crazy even thinking about it.
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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How do you mean stuck? Like siezed up in the hole and rounded the cam off? When we took the stock motor out one of the lifters had done that. Could it have screwed up the block that time and now come back to get this set of lifters too? I hope not, but if so i guess it will be long-block time,
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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rod bearing knock?
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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^I hope to god not, i won't rebuild this engine again! I took out all the lifters pushrods and rockers, they all are fine, no scratches or flat spots. Could the oil have gotten so hot that it is not lubricating good and causing knock? i reset the rockers like 3 times trying to stop the knock, and it really sounds like a tappet to me but they are all fine. I don't understand, but hopefully someone will think of something small that might be the problem
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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have you pulled valve covers and re-ajusted rockers?
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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"Could the oil have gotten so hot that it is not lubricating good..."

All this and you haven't changed the oil? Easy stuff first

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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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DUDE CHANGE THE OIL !!!!!!!!!!!! I agree dont you remember the old mobil one commercial...I had a hole in the radiator in my jeep and it overheated.....That was all i could think about. A clicking sounds like a lifter...a rod is a hollow knocking sound Trust me I have heard them both . Clicking is usually in the valve train. If that is all good dont over look the accessory bearings/pullys. Hate to tear apart and enginge fo a bad alternator bushing.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 12:49 AM
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could a lifter not be pumping up?
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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Default Had a similar problem with a new roller lifter

When we first fired my new 383 there was a tapping noise from under the intake. Further inspection revealed a lifter that was collapsing. This was a brand new Comp Cams roller lifter. We removed it and installed a new one, problem solved. The machine shop found it by loosening the rocker of the suspect lifter then priming the oiling system with a drill. The lifter would pump up, then when the pressure was removed it would collapse pretty quickly, while the others stayed pumped up.
Just a thought, but I would change the oil first.
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