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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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Default So vacuum tanks leak, eh?

I've been running around with my handheld vacuum gun checking all lines on the vette. It turns out that the vacuum reserve tank won't even hold the slighest vacuum.

Also, an actuator relay on the headlight is bad too. Man, I am so sick of replacing parts after less than a year... ughh.

Could my engine be pulling too much vacuum?? Its pulling like 20 inches on the gauge. Is it causing these parts of marginal quality to poopie out?

Vacuum that doesn't suck sucks.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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I've been running around with my handheld vacuum gun checking all lines on the vette. It turns out that the vacuum reserve tank won't even hold the slighest vacuum.

Also, an actuator relay on the headlight is bad too. Man, I am so sick of replacing parts after less than a year... ughh.

Could my engine be pulling too much vacuum?? Its pulling like 20 inches on the gauge. Is it causing these parts of marginal quality to poopie out?

Vacuum that doesn't suck sucks.
The reserve tank on your car is probably cracked. You will have to remove it and get it repaired(welded or brazed). It's a common problem on those cars. As for the relay, they do wear out over time. New ones are kinda high, but there are good used ones out there for half price or less. I don't think 20 inches of vacuum is too much for the components, but 30 years of wear is!!
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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better question-how do you get that res out?? underneath?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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The tank actually acts as part of the support structure. I guess after years of chassis flex, one of those welds is bound to break? Maybe thats why the later models went to the "coffee can" tank.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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You have to pull the brake booster & reservoir.

Its a bummer.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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Or a patch,,, to test Epoxy, kinda Bubba but it's worth 1 cent
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The tank actually acts as part of the support structure. I guess after years of chassis flex, one of those welds is bound to break? Maybe thats why the later models went to the "coffee can" tank.
Support structure for what? I'm considering a lighter reservoir.
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Support structure for what? I'm considering a lighter reservoir.
Your tanks bolted between the two frame rails, right?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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I can't see how its bolted in. It looks like its just sitting on top of the drivers side frame rail.
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does it look like a pipe or a can?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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The bolts are in the fender well(on the tire side).
I think you can weasel it out but you may have to take off the booster....I just can't remember.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Are you sure you are testing the tank correctly?

Make sure you are right before you start pulling everything apart. If your tank will not hold any vaccum then none of your systems should work properly. Wiper door, headlights, heating and a/c system etc. There are a lot of vacum operated systems on these cars and without a marginally functioning vacum tank I don't think any of them would operate as designed. Are you experiencing these type problems?
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If the tank is bad, I would just bypass it. With the high vacuum you have, it isnt necessary to use. It will save all the aggrevation of pulling it and repairing it. The only downside is the car must be running in order to close the headlights.
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Originally Posted by BUGGSY1970
Are you sure you are testing the tank correctly?

Make sure you are right before you start pulling everything apart. If your tank will not hold any vaccum then none of your systems should work properly. Wiper door, headlights, heating and a/c system etc. There are a lot of vacum operated systems on these cars and without a marginally functioning vacum tank I don't think any of them would operate as designed. Are you experiencing these type problems?
I think so, I redid the whole system when I had the motor out. Although I do tend to make bonehead mistakes at times. I plugged the two lines coming out of the tank, before any tees then hooked my vac tester the the line from the manifold. ( I even tested my vacuum tester) The tank looks a kinda rough.

Hmmm, I'm taking a welding class now. Maybe I'll bring it in and drop a big, nasty weld around the seams. On second thought, perhaps I'll let the instructor handle that one for me...
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It is a PITA to remove it. I just had mine out, only to find that it held vacuum just fine. The reason I remove it was that I had the brake booster off to clean and repaint it so it was 1 of those while I'm at it jobs.
I even filled my utility sink with water at pressurized the tan and held it under water...no bubbles.
Take off your left side egg crate grill, disconnect and lable the evap. cannister hoses and get them up and out of the way, spray WD-40 on the reserv. mounting bolts sticking thru the left fender well, remove the PB booster if you have PB (or just the MC), and wrangle it out!
Good luck!
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It is a PITA to remove it. I just had mine outof my '71, only to find that it held vacuum just fine. The reason I removed it was that I had the brake booster off to clean and repaint it so it was 1 of those while I'm at it jobs.
I even filled my utility sink with water and pressurized the tank to 25 PSI and held it under water...no bubbles.
Take off your left side egg crate grill, disconnect and lable the evap. cannister hoses and get them up and out of the way, spray WD-40 on the reserv. mounting bolts sticking thru the left fender well, remove the PB booster if you have PB (or just the MC), and wrangle it out!
Good luck!

PS....getting the booster out (if you have one) is an adventure in itself!!!

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