AR RACING 383 stroker---sound clips-just started
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From: Chambersburg PA
My plan would leave me pretty close to your set up. TKO 5 speed into 3.73...This sounds like a nice balance of Drivability and performance, is that what you are finding? It sounds like your set up is a good bit more track oriented than I'm looking for. I would probably run 1 5/8 headers into a 2 1/2 inch exhaust into a pair of walkers. I would run the stock half shafts with the spicer uni's. The motor would be very similar to Oregon's probably an AFR 195 headed unit with a 1500-6000rpm cam. It sounds like my set up should put me comfortably in the 12's. My openion once you start pushing under 12 you have to give up the creature comforts. My car is a 'Vert so no slicks for me....I want the doors to still be able to close.
Also how would you rate AR's overall quality? Any leaks or cheezy paint/obvious cost cutting?
Also how would you rate AR's overall quality? Any leaks or cheezy paint/obvious cost cutting?
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Melting Slicks
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From: Keizer Oregon
Originally Posted by 1970-Bronze
Hood Clearence....???? 
) If it does fit, it will be by about 1/000000000000000's of an inch 
I keep you guys posted when try the hood in a few days.
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Originally Posted by 75rag4sp
My plan would leave me pretty close to your set up. TKO 5 speed into 3.73...This sounds like a nice balance of Drivability and performance, is that what you are finding? It sounds like your set up is a good bit more track oriented than I'm looking for. I would probably run 1 5/8 headers into a 2 1/2 inch exhaust into a pair of walkers. I would run the stock half shafts with the spicer uni's. The motor would be very similar to Oregon's probably an AFR 195 headed unit with a 1500-6000rpm cam. It sounds like my set up should put me comfortably in the 12's. My openion once you start pushing under 12 you have to give up the creature comforts. My car is a 'Vert so no slicks for me....I want the doors to still be able to close.
Also how would you rate AR's overall quality? Any leaks or cheezy paint/obvious cost cutting?
Also how would you rate AR's overall quality? Any leaks or cheezy paint/obvious cost cutting?
I think that the smaller headers and exhaust will cost you significant power.... The engine has to be able to breathe.... With smaller pipes - you are choking the engine... You are probably looking at a net 30 HP loss compared to my exhaust system... You still should get into the 12's with that setup... but 11's would be still far away... In order to run 11's with a not too radical 383 - your setup has to be well tuned in... Initially - I would only get into low 12's with my setup until I changed carb, wheels and tires...
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From: Chambersburg PA
I agree with you but i think we all have a lil difference in where we want to be on the comfort vs. power scale. I had a buddy who build a monster 88 mustang over 550 rwhp with the vortech hooked up but he took the power steering belt off and the resonance of the flow masters at 70mph would make your head explode. In my opinion he went to far especially when he was running 7"pony wheels and the damn thing would spin them at 60mph in third gear.
Again right now my goal is a sharp street ride that will out run any new stock vehicle. Ok mustly i wanna make sure I can smoke all the ricers at the track.
Again right now my goal is a sharp street ride that will out run any new stock vehicle. Ok mustly i wanna make sure I can smoke all the ricers at the track.
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St. Jude Donor '03, '06, '17
Originally Posted by 75rag4sp
I agree with you but i think we all have a lil difference in where we want to be on the comfort vs. power scale. I had a buddy who build a monster 88 mustang over 550 rwhp with the vortech hooked up but he took the power steering belt off and the resonance of the flow masters at 70mph would make your head explode. In my opinion he went to far especially when he was running 7"pony wheels and the damn thing would spin them at 60mph in third gear.
Again right now my goal is a sharp street ride that will out run any new stock vehicle. Ok mustly i wanna make sure I can smoke all the ricers at the track.
Again right now my goal is a sharp street ride that will out run any new stock vehicle. Ok mustly i wanna make sure I can smoke all the ricers at the track.
you should be able to do that for sure... I always try to get the maximum out of my setup because I'm addicted to drag racing and every 1/100 of a second counts
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St. Jude Donor '03, '06, '17
Originally Posted by 75rag4sp
well it sounds like after 12k you have been trouble free. Can I consider that an AR motor 
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Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by Lotus76
1.Launched your engine soundbite 
2.Set my windows media player on repeat
3.Played through my bose system
4.Reading Corvette Forum
5.
2.Set my windows media player on repeat
3.Played through my bose system
4.Reading Corvette Forum
5.
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Sharkman how has your week with the new mouse been? I just replayed the sound bite....it really is sweet. AR makes those motors in just about the way I would want it built. I am a little worried that they are in the $3500 range where most ou the other turn kry guys are at $6000. Are you happy with the overall quality of the build and the level of service?
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Melting Slicks
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From: Keizer Oregon
Originally Posted by 75rag4sp
Sharkman how has your week with the new mouse been? I just replayed the sound bite....it really is sweet. AR makes those motors in just about the way I would want it built. I am a little worried that they are in the $3500 range where most ou the other turn kry guys are at $6000. Are you happy with the overall quality of the build and the level of service?
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Melting Slicks
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OH yeah......by the time I had the motor running (new starter, alternator, water neck, fuel pump, fuel line, fuel filter, water pump, new hoses, new sensors, headers, bolts, gaskets and everything else I forgot to mention) I was well over $6000 
....so anyway I do enjoy it 
....so anyway I do enjoy it
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Originally Posted by oregonsharkman
So far pretty good.........I found a very tiny oil leak around the timing chain, (might be my fault) and the motor smokes a bit still after about 100 miles( not like my old motor which smoked every time I stepped on the gas, but sometimes on downshift at about 2000 rpm a puff of smoke comes out the back???) The motor runs very well and is now settled into a less radical idle with plenty of vacuum. power is just amazing and street manners are reasonable for a very hot sounding motor (people stare and thumbs up every 20 feet)
What are you doing for evacuation?? If you don't have enough evacuation - oil will get past seals and rings.. That's what happened to me and I fixed it with my evacuation system...
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Melting Slicks
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What are you doing for evacuation?? If you don't have enough evacuation - oil will get past seals and rings.. That's what happened to me and I fixed it with my evacuation system...
on one valve cover I have a pcv valve that goes to the vacuum fitting at the front of the carb. On the other valve cover I have a tall filter for air intake to the crankcase. Do you think i need an active evacuation system..........what are you running??? I have talked to a few mechanics around here who say minor smoking/leaking on a new engine is normal until the rings and gaskets seal, and that I shouldn't worry about it. But I am aware of hi-perf. engines and their need for crankcase evac.
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Originally Posted by oregonsharkman
on one valve cover I have a pcv valve that goes to the vacuum fitting at the front of the carb. On the other valve cover I have a tall filter for air intake to the crankcase. Do you think i need an active evacuation system..........what are you running??? I have talked to a few mechanics around here who say minor smoking/leaking on a new engine is normal until the rings and gaskets seal, and that I shouldn't worry about it. But I am aware of hi-perf. engines and their need for crankcase evac.
I had a lot of oil consumption with the PCV system and it improved significantly after I added the evacuation system. My system is hooked up to the exhaust and uses vacuum in the exhaust system to evacuate the preassure in the crankcase... However - this system only works with open exhaust... If you don't run open exhaust - I'd recommend non-restrictive breathers (open style).. I'll post a pic of the type of breathers that I'm talking about)
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Here's the link:
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...+400171+300854
The larger the breather the better... The K&N breather is the way to prevent excessive preassure buildup without an evacuation system...
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...+400171+300854
The larger the breather the better... The K&N breather is the way to prevent excessive preassure buildup without an evacuation system...
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Melting Slicks
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From: Keizer Oregon
Originally Posted by GrandSportC3
Here's the link:
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...+400171+300854
The larger the breather the better... The K&N breather is the way to prevent excessive preassure buildup without an evacuation system...
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...+400171+300854
The larger the breather the better... The K&N breather is the way to prevent excessive preassure buildup without an evacuation system...
Last edited by oregonsharkman; Sep 25, 2004 at 09:34 PM.