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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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This is way off topic, but, I have a legal question I am not finding an answer to so I thought I would bounce it off of you guys and see who might know something about this.

My next door neighbor (1/4 mile away) is a convicted felon and today he was supposed to be sentenced to more time for being in possession of a firearm (pulled a sawed off shotgun on the police). He has already plea bargained and today was his day to see how many years he receives. Anyway, yesterday there is a posting about his case (we are following this on the federal court site on the internet) that said "MOTION for preliminary order of forfeiture". Do any of you know what this means?

As if he is not already in enough trouble, late yesterday afternoon the police served a warrant on their house and busted a working meth lab. One lady was so stoned they hauled her in to the hospital in an ambulance.

I have a feeling that my neighborhood is going to be a much safer place for a few years now.

Thanks in advance for any help any of you might know of about this "MOTION for preliminary order of forfeiture" and what it means.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Without digging further, many states can now seize property when it has been used in certain (drug-related) crimes. In Arizona, authorities can seize cars used for transporting drugs. Generally the property is then sold at auction to hep further fund law enforcement.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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The authorities are going to seize his property and possibly other assets.

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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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Yep, There is gonna be an auction at your neighbors house soon. Head over, Might be able to pick up some cheap braided lines and fittings from the Meth lab.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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The meth labs are so costly to clean up, they will probably try to recover some of the cost by selling the forfeited property.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Looks like maybe I will get rid of him for a few years and get us some new neighbors also It really couldn't get much better than that. Thanks for all your comments.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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Does he have a vette? Govt will auction off his stuff!
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PRND21
Does he have a vette? Govt will auction off his stuff!
Not trying to hi-jack the thread....but just heard something on the local news here in the LA area (I'm in LA working this week). There is a local sheriff that has changed the rules a bit on seized property. If your car is seized because of racing on the street, they will not auction the car (as is the normal practice). Instead, they are going to crush it and sell it as scrap. The sheriff says that seized cars that are sold at auction tend to end right back on the street racing, so he is crushing them.
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Yep, There is gonna be an auction at your neighbors house soon. Head over, Might be able to pick up some cheap braided lines and fittings from the Meth lab.[/QUOTE]

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Hello,

I looked up the MOTION FOR PRELIMINARY ORDER OF FORFEITURE in my Blacks Law Dictionary.

This is an early (PRELIMINARY) request made to a judge (MOTION) to transfer the rights, title or interests of property (FORFEITURE) when the defendant is convicted of a criminal offense for which forefeiture is provided as a sanction, or when a defendant enters a guilty plea for thier offense. This will then transfer the defendants interest in the property seized to the United States. The preliminary order becomes final at the time of the defendants sentencing, but it remains preliminary to all third parties until all claims are litigated.


Now I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Express last night.


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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:54 PM
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KDF is correct. Also, as stated above by others, the forfeiture can be real estate, firearms, autos, etc. With federal drug convictions the forfeiture to the U.S Govt. is usually cash, real estate, or autos. In firearm cases (i.e.felon in possession of firearm) the federal current trend is to forfeit the firearm itself.

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