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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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I thought I had my air problem licked! I keep having to "burp" the system to get any warm air in the cockpit. Tonight, I let the motor run for a good 30 minutes with the cap off, and the antifreeze just stayed right at the neck level. I squeezed the upper radiator hose and the level went down a bit, so I put in more dist. water. Ran it some more, the antifreeze again doesn't go past the filler neck! Put the cap back on and pulled off the overflow tank hose....nothing ever came down the tube. If that's not aggravating enough, when I turn off the engine, my headlights pop up 1/2 way. WTFO?
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have you drilled 2 - 1/16 holes in the thermostat to let steam out....
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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As I posted earlier it could be a bad thermostat. Either take the thermostat out and check it or just replace it with a new one. Be sure to drill one or two small holes in the sides od the thermostat to keep the air lock from happening. But since you have a recurring problem, I suspect you have a malfunctioning thermostat. Get the one that fails in the open mode for safety sake. If this doesn't work for you, we need to ask more questions.

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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Get the one that fails in the open mode for safety sake. Bernie

do they actualy make one like that?
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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I haven't drilled holes in the thermostat yet.....I just put a new one in on Friday. Does it matter where the holes are? I think I might drain/flush at the same time since I'm a new owner of it. Will let you know how it goes...Thanks!
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I haven't drilled holes in the thermostat yet.....I just put a new one in on Friday. Does it matter where the holes are? I think I might drain/flush at the same time since I'm a new owner of it. Will let you know how it goes...Thanks!

not much room for them i just made mine opposed to each other

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Thanks for the pic! I will give that a shot!
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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do they actualy make one like that?
Yes. I have a failsafe one in mine. (well I hope I do thats what it said on the box)
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Try jacking the front of the car up a little starting it with cap off let it
run till the thermostat opens keep the heater running wide open then top off and put cap back on.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Make sure that the upper hose is the EXACT one. Preferably GM.. Then make sure it is routed around in front of the alternator, not over it. IF the upper hose has any places in it that are higher than the pressure cap that is the problem. The cap MUST be the highest point in the system or air will trap at the high piont. When the cap relieve pressure. It needs to be vapor that escapes, not water.
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Originally Posted by Larry B.
Make sure that the upper hose is the EXACT one. Preferably GM.. Then make sure it is routed around in front of the alternator, not over it. IF the upper hose has any places in it that are higher than the pressure cap that is the problem. The cap MUST be the highest point in the system or air will trap at the high piont. When the cap relieve pressure. It needs to be vapor that escapes, not water.


everyone always says this about the "high point" in the system but heck, my thermostat is higher than my pressure cap and the hose comes out of the housing at an "up" angle. so how can you ever have the pressure cap as the high point?
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ok guys, ive got you all covered for this. i worked in a rad shop a couple years, and we licked this problem all the time. for starters, the stat that fails in the open position is real and really a no brainer. second, you can drill holes if you like, but we found ( all knowlege, no college ), you can take two aspirins, the long cylinder type are easiest to use, and place them in between the stat holding it open while the car purges and heats up! roughly around the same time the stat would normally open, is about the same time the aspirin will disolve. ok, as for the high spot in the system, the hose and/or stat housing are the highest spots on c3's. most older housings have/had removable plugs, i used to BLEED the air. and i suppose the jacking the front up attack, is the same, or as good. also you can use a vacuam pump with gauge if you are well equiped, and solve the air lock problem
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i love it...take two aspirin and call me in the morning......
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