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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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I have a 10.5 cluth in the car now with a mini starter where both bolts are parralel to the flywheel. Will that starter work with the new 11 in clutch set up. I seem to think I need the sterter with the bolts that are off set. ?????
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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I have a 10.5 cluth in the car now with a mini starter where both bolts are parralel to the flywheel. Will that starter work with the new 11 in clutch set up. I seem to think I need the sterter with the bolts that are off set. ?????

does your ministarter starter have 4 bolt holes, mine did? if so you may just have to move it over....heres what a SBC starter bolt holes look like from the bottom...whether its a starter with staggerd bolt holes or mini starter it has to have the right offset....just because it has a staggered bolt pattern doesn't mean it will work...the off set is the critical part...




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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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I have a 10.5 cluth in the car now with a mini starter where both bolts are parralel to the flywheel. Will that starter work with the new 11 in clutch set up. I seem to think I need the sterter with the bolts that are off set. ?????
You will need a different starter if the mini starter you have is not drilled for both the in-line and the offset bolt hole pattern. Some mini starters have both patterns.

The bellhousing, starter nose, and flywheel must match as an assy. Either 10.5" setup or the 11" setup. There is no mix and match with these pieces.

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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So am i getting this right..so when switching over to an 11inch setup..you need a different starter? I thought it only mattered with how many teeth was on the flywheel?

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So am i getting this right..so when switching over to an 11inch setup..you need a different starter? I thought it only mattered with how many teeth was on the flywheel?

perhaps....you need to see if your starter has holes for both different size flywheels/flexplates...it may have them or it may not...you have to get down and look at it
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So am i getting this right..so when switching over to an 11inch setup..you need a different starter? I thought it only mattered with how many teeth was on the flywheel?
Think about it another way. If you make the "big gear" (flywheel) smaller, you need to move the "little gear" (starter) closer to the center of the engine to keep them meshed together. The Bellhousing has only one hole designed for only one gear setup location so when you move the gears around, the hole in the bellhousing needs to move as well(different bellhousing). Nothing is in the same place anymore. You realy need to get the different starter brace as well when you move the starter around. They are like $5 or so from the General.

Big clutch uses the big flywheel, offset starter bolts, and big bellhousing

Smaller clutch uses the small flywheel, in-line starter bolts, and small bellhousing.

If you are using an OEM starter, only the nose cone on the starter absolutly needs to be changed when doing the swap. The rest of the starter assy is the same. Most people would just go out and buy a different rebuilt starter and call it good.

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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by stingr69
Think about it another way. If you make the "big gear" (flywheel) smaller, you need to move the "little gear" (starter) closer to the center of the engine to keep them meshed together. The Bellhousing has only one hole designed for only one gear setup location so when you move the gears around, the hole in the bellhousing needs to move as well(different bellhousing). Nothing is in the same place anymore. You realy need to get the different starter brace as well when you move the starter around. They are like $5 or so from the General.

Big clutch uses the big flywheel, offset starter bolts, and big bellhousing

Smaller clutch uses the small flywheel, in-line starter bolts, and small bellhousing.

If you are using an OEM starter, only the nose cone on the starter absolutly needs to be changed when doing the swap. The rest of the starter assy is the same. Most people would just go out and buy a different rebuilt starter and call it good.

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Thanks for the info Mark
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Okay that answers that. I swapped engines a few years ago, I installed a late model one piece rear seal engine that used a 10.5 clutch.requiring the mini starter with the strait bolt pattern. Now going back to the original block upgraded to a 383 and can use the 11 clutch.Guess I need to add a new start onto the list of things to buy....
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