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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Default How to quiet holley electric pumps down.

I believe in electric pumps but not their reliability. I always run 2 with seperate switches and like a plane check each pump by itself when running.

Anyway electric pumps can be noisy so I got these dampeners. They are used but can be bought from any bolt supply house. They have a variety of dampeners. YOu just need one with the right bolt pattern

These are two flanges joined to gether with an inch of rubber.

I put a bolt through the center of one flange and bolt it to the frame. I bolt the pump to the other flange.

I do not hear my pump when the motor is running and only a slight buzz when priming before starting

These are old

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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Oh My answer was to buy a Mallory pump...

also the shock mounts for an MSD 6AL box work great. they are smaller with a stud on one end and a threaded hole on the other. So all you have to do is replace your current bolt with the isolator
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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I just made an insulator gasket out of an old bicycle tube between the pump mounting and the frame. No more clatter.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Good idea, Norval! Thanks! My Holley fuel pump on the 502 was so fricken noisy that I was glad when it failed prematurely.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Oh My answer was to buy a Mallory pump...

also the shock mounts for an MSD 6AL box work great. they are smaller with a stud on one end and a threaded hole on the other. So all you have to do is replace your current bolt with the isolator

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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one way is to hook a pressure switch to the pump so it only runs when needed
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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My answer would be to buy some other pump also, no holley pumps for me.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Norval, I'm suprised you can even hear your after start up. As so as I turn the switch I hear it kick on and 2 seconds later after the car fires the exhuast drowns out the noise. You would think between the exhaust and the blower wine you wouldn't be able to hear it?
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Holley pumps are the noisiest there are. Replace w/an ACCEL or another brand. This referring to a Holley Blue. If it is a Holley Red pump, for a carbureted car, then it should be quiet enough with proper insulation.
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Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm
I believe in electric pumps but not their reliability. I always run 2 with seperate switches and like a plane check each pump by itself when running.

Anyway electric pumps can be noisy so I got these dampeners. They are used but can be bought from any bolt supply house. They have a variety of dampeners. YOu just need one with the right bolt pattern

These are two flanges joined to gether with an inch of rubber.

I put a bolt through the center of one flange and bolt it to the frame. I bolt the pump to the other flange.

I do not hear my pump when the motor is running and only a slight buzz when priming before starting

These are old

Those are type 2 vibration isolators, rubber-in-shear, flange mount. Probably available from an industrial supply store (Grainger comes to mind).

You can alternately hang the pump from a piece of rubber but be sure to run a ground cable from the pump to the frame.

-Mark.
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I believe in electric pumps but not their reliability. I always run 2 with seperate switches and like a plane check each pump by itself when running.
I've been thinking about a dual electric pump setup (for reliability). How did you plumb the dual setup? For instance, I imagine the simple way would be to have 2 pumps in parallel, pumping into a common fuel line going to the engine. But if one pump is operating, and the other is not, is there a concern that the active pump will also start pumping fuel back throught the non-operating redundant pump and just cause it work excessively hard?

Can you describe where you mounted your fuel pumps? I do have one of those Holley pumps (that don't seem to have a good reputation with some forum people) and I was thinking about a bracket on the frame that would allow the head of the pump to stick up between the fuel tank and the differential crossmember. Now maybe I should start thinking about two "heads."

Thanks
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Here's how I mounted my dual Mallory pumps. I isolated the brackets and bolts with cushions.



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Thanks for the photo. Looks great.
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Originally Posted by Corey_68
Norval, I'm suprised you can even hear your after start up. As so as I turn the switch I hear it kick on and 2 seconds later after the car fires the exhuast drowns out the noise. You would think between the exhaust and the blower wine you wouldn't be able to hear it?
My car is quieter then you think. I don't like noise and if I could quiet the blower whine down I would.
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 68/70Vette
I've been thinking about a dual electric pump setup (for reliability). How did you plumb the dual setup? For instance, I imagine the simple way would be to have 2 pumps in parallel, pumping into a common fuel line going to the engine. But if one pump is operating, and the other is not, is there a concern that the active pump will also start pumping fuel back throught the non-operating redundant pump and just cause it work excessively hard?

Can you describe where you mounted your fuel pumps? I do have one of those Holley pumps (that don't seem to have a good reputation with some forum people) and I was thinking about a bracket on the frame that would allow the head of the pump to stick up between the fuel tank and the differential crossmember. Now maybe I should start thinking about two "heads."

Thanks

I did away with the stock fuel system. I welded two new 1/2 inch outlets to the tank bottom, one at each corner and yes a gas tank is easy to weld at home. I use air conditioning solder.
Anyway two oulets into twin fuel filters into twin holley pumps into a common 1/2 inch fuel line. I run one pump at a time unless I want extra line pressure.
I run the best regulator that holley makes , no return line.
With both pumps line pressure is 16 pounds , fuel pressure after regulator 6 pounds.
One pump on the line pressure sits at 6 pounds and fuel pressure to carb sits at 6.
I alternate the pumps to make sure both are working and both do not sieze.
I do the same on the mustang, exactly the same.
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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I used a Holley blue in my '64 GTO Drag car and simply used a pair of shock bushings on each side, like a sandwich. It was bolted right to the body and could not be heard while the engine ran.

Hans
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm
My car is quieter then you think. I don't like noise and if I could quiet the blower whine down I would.

Yup is quiet... probably more quiet than my old 350 was with hookers on.
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Thanks. Although, I think I'll just use the single stock tube out of the fuel tank.
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