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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TRaj2327
that was great lakes! you poor wisconsinite.
Broadway Bob recruits all of his emergency workers from Gurnee,Il.
They go their training from Great America Bumper Car ride operators.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Are you sure? I am thinking Keystone Kops here.

The really annoying part was the seriously slow response of the fire crews. It was agonizing watching the car burn and no one approached. And when they did, they sprayed each other with the crap and not the car! Talk about morons.

Does anyone know if the owners of the track are sanctioned? That tape is a real damning piece of evidence as to how poorly run that track is. I would never consider racing there.

It's one thing to sign a release, when you expect reasonable response. But when it takes 30 seconds for the firemen to get there, that's neglegence. A release does not excuse one from being unprepared.

Did the owner have any recourse with the track operators? If the fire crews had been stationed correctly, they would have had that fire out as quickly as the driver was getting out of the car. It's that simple.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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That folks was a perfect example of the way that the new generation has managed to substitute bad language for descriptive language. A generation ago, a dialogue would have ensued, describing how the car caught on fire, what parts were burning, where the driver had run off to, and how the crew was putting out the fire.

This young sounding man could only think of "holy f'in ****" to say?

How descriptive!
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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you have hit the nail on the head... it's a lack of critical thinking. so tragic...
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bogus
Are you sure? I am thinking Keystone Kops here.
Does anyone know if the owners of the track are sanctioned? That tape is a real damning piece of evidence as to how poorly run that track is. I would never consider racing there.
First off, let me state I'm not defending anyone.
I've raced at this track quite a few years ago, and the same applies now as it did 25 years ago. The owner goes by the name of Broadway Bob, as I stated in the above post. It's quite the circus atmosphere nowadays.

Yes, it is a sanctioned track, but not for what these guys were doing.
This track regularly/weekly holds "Grudge Racing", a non-sanctioned event. You (anybody) pay your money,go thru a tech line, get in line, run down the track, and get an ET/speed slip. No classes; you may line up against a top fueler out practicing, although the track crews will normally let those types of cars run by themselves, for the same reason that the video in question shows- fires,explosions,roll-overs,etc.

There is no sanctioning body emergeny crews at these events, it's local volunteers manning most posts, the tech inspector,tree operator and staging persons are the only paid people close to the starting line.

So on these grudge match events, the firemen are more likely to be the beer vendors and burger flippers.

I forget the exact letters, but the sanctioning body (not NHRA) only runs at this track 2 or 3 times a year. It's something like USHRA.

So what I'm trying to say, as relating to this particular video, you sign a release not holding the track "liable" for anything, but you are liable for damage to their property - what a double whammy
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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I think that they at least owe it to you regardless of what is stated in the waiver to pay some guy $10 an hour to stand near the start with an extinguisher in hand all night when there are over 100 cars there who each pays $10 for the car and probably about $6 for himself. Not to mention that all bystanders (non-racers) who are watching also paid their own $6 or so. I have been to that track and there isn't **** there but an announcers booth, some hot dog stands, a front gate, and some lighting. How much could it possibly cost to run the place that they can't have someone right nearby for an emergency like this. Slackasses.

And the problem with the kids in the video and how they were so non-descipt purely falls on the fact they were import fan's. Stereotypically they don't know the difference from a camshaft and a lumbar adjust. I personally can't stand ignorant people like that. They just aggravate me!
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by touringmike
So what I'm trying to say, as relating to this particular video, you sign a release not holding the track "liable" for anything, but you are liable for damage to their property - what a double whammy
That's my point... I am focusing on this statement, cause you covered everything else I was concerned about.

The focus is because a release does not automatically allow the officating body to act negligent. For example, they don't provide good fire protection, and then blame you for damaging their pavement when the car catches fire. It does not release them from taking steps toward appropriate track safety.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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That's too bad about the vette. Those geeks have probably never even owned a car.
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Yep... sucks to be him...
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 12:52 AM
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As far as liability goes, right or wrong once you go through tech and sign that release, all bets are off. That's racin'!
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by amm0bob
Yep... sucks to be him...
Nah...he's getting a Black C6 with the insurance money.....

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