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I have to say it... I am a computer geek by profession, so I am more then well versed with how this stuff works.
What tobijohn said is exactly what we discussed in the email.
However, the reality is that ISPs may be in one state but the subscriber 4 states away... so the alaska connection really means zip.
What tobijohn said is exactly what we discussed in the email.
However, the reality is that ISPs may be in one state but the subscriber 4 states away... so the alaska connection really means zip.
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St. Jude '03 thru '24
Originally Posted by yellowlust
What's a virus?
Computer viruses are called viruses because they share some of the traits of biological viruses. A computer virus passes from computer to computer like a biological virus passes from person to person.
There are similarities at a deeper level, as well. A biological virus is not a living thing. A virus is a fragment of DNA inside a protective jacket. Unlike a cell, a virus has no way to do anything or to reproduce by itself -- it is not alive. Instead, a biological virus must inject its DNA into a cell. The viral DNA then uses the cell's existing machinery to reproduce itself. In some cases, the cell fills with new viral particles until it bursts, releasing the virus. In other cases, the new virus particles bud off the cell one at a time, and the cell remains alive.
A computer virus shares some of these traits. A computer virus must piggyback on top of some other program or document in order to get executed. Once it is running, it is then able to infect other programs or documents. Obviously, the analogy between computer and biological viruses stretches things a bit, but there are enough similarities that the name sticks.
Melting Slicks
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From: alaska
Originally Posted by bogus
I have to say it... I am a computer geek by profession, so I am more then well versed with how this stuff works.
What tobijohn said is exactly what we discussed in the email.
However, the reality is that ISPs may be in one state but the subscriber 4 states away... so the alaska connection really means zip.
What tobijohn said is exactly what we discussed in the email.
However, the reality is that ISPs may be in one state but the subscriber 4 states away... so the alaska connection really means zip.
plus mydoom virus is a spoofer in the first place :P
actually i think that one will go down in history is the most propogated script to ever hit the www.
it was supposed to time out as written but is still popping up everywhere-like for 18 months now i think
Bench Racer
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From: Palm Beach Gardens FL
St. Jude '03 thru 14,'25
Originally Posted by bogus
...However, the reality is that ISPs may be in one state but the subscriber 4 states away... so the alaska connection really means zip.
EDIT: Checked out the site of the the ISP mentioned and it seems they only have Alaskan access numbers (just to be sure they didn't offer service in other states) http://www.gci.com/about/index.htm ...
Last edited by tobijohn; May 16, 2005 at 07:05 AM.
Melting Slicks
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From: alaska
bone up on ip spoofing.or how your mydoom worm propogates as it was one of the original spoofers.thats what made it unique.
basically the thing was supposed to load itself onto millions of systems through address books and then on a certain time and date all system would go to a certain website (i forget who the target was but it to prove a point and it did)putting said website out of commision.
after all the hullabaloo the thing wound up having no payload at all (that did anything) and so it all blew over.except for the fact that its still floating all over the internet.
the mails you receive with mydoom attachments have spoofed "from" information.grabbed out of the air,bogus-if you will
you can traceroute,pingtrace all you want but your on the wrong track as the "from" information your tracing is not valid.
the feds never did trace the thing down.i doubt we can.
but it is fun playing detective,and im still curious about the forum connection.all forum emails arent in anyones address book so how does the forum tie in?
oh another tip on security for anyone,dont use outlook express.
i use thunderbird (looks just like oe) but it doesnt contain any .wab files (outlook address book) which many of these pests prey on.
forgot about that one.
basically the thing was supposed to load itself onto millions of systems through address books and then on a certain time and date all system would go to a certain website (i forget who the target was but it to prove a point and it did)putting said website out of commision.
after all the hullabaloo the thing wound up having no payload at all (that did anything) and so it all blew over.except for the fact that its still floating all over the internet.
the mails you receive with mydoom attachments have spoofed "from" information.grabbed out of the air,bogus-if you will
you can traceroute,pingtrace all you want but your on the wrong track as the "from" information your tracing is not valid.
the feds never did trace the thing down.i doubt we can.
but it is fun playing detective,and im still curious about the forum connection.all forum emails arent in anyones address book so how does the forum tie in?
oh another tip on security for anyone,dont use outlook express.
i use thunderbird (looks just like oe) but it doesnt contain any .wab files (outlook address book) which many of these pests prey on.
forgot about that one.
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From: Boston, Dallas, Detroit, SoCal, back to Boston MA
Originally Posted by mitymek
free online scanners like this http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
(do a google search for free online virus scan) work well to let you know if you have anything.
theres free virus protection available for the downloading,heres some examples:
http://www.thefreesite.com/Free_Soft...irus_freeware/
also use these free bot removal software regularly to keep your resources from being scavenged by data loggers.
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/
you may be surprised at how just casual browsing the internet can infect your system with garbage that sucks resources.
another freeby protection that would stop that worm from exiting your system even if you were infested is a very good low overhead firewall orignaly called kerio tiny personal firewall.
get it here http://www.tinysoftware.com/home/tiny2?la=EN
google toolbar is another plus that prevents popups (not only annoying but a popula infestation method).
bottom line is the nets infested with vermin,but with just a little bit of work you can safely go "virtually" anywhere you want and not get infested.
oh yea-if your isp offers a email like "postini" for a buck a month by all means use it.
if your seeing more than 2 or 3 spam messages in your inbox you need a filter.
(do a google search for free online virus scan) work well to let you know if you have anything.
theres free virus protection available for the downloading,heres some examples:
http://www.thefreesite.com/Free_Soft...irus_freeware/
also use these free bot removal software regularly to keep your resources from being scavenged by data loggers.
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/
you may be surprised at how just casual browsing the internet can infect your system with garbage that sucks resources.
another freeby protection that would stop that worm from exiting your system even if you were infested is a very good low overhead firewall orignaly called kerio tiny personal firewall.
get it here http://www.tinysoftware.com/home/tiny2?la=EN
google toolbar is another plus that prevents popups (not only annoying but a popula infestation method).
bottom line is the nets infested with vermin,but with just a little bit of work you can safely go "virtually" anywhere you want and not get infested.
oh yea-if your isp offers a email like "postini" for a buck a month by all means use it.
if your seeing more than 2 or 3 spam messages in your inbox you need a filter.
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