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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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Just purchased an 85 Corvette, having some problems.
This Corvette has a large stereo\dvd system installed with two amps with over 1500 watts of power.
Cars in Vegas and gets up to over 220 degrees sometimes in 110 degree weather perhaps this is normal and does not overheat.
Main problem is that the volt meter comes on and will go down to 11.5 and then down to 11.2 at the lowest and sometimes stalls and has to be restarted. Usually occurs when you are in stop and go traffic. We changed the alternator from factory to a Delco rebuilt with 228 amps to see if this would solve the problem. The idle rpms would go down to 490 so set the idle up to 700 but it will go down from there after driving will go down to 520 at a stop light. Also the fuel reserve light will come on at times with only 13 gallons gone, also the average mpg is reading 16.7 is this normal? Any suggestions how to fix these problems?
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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You need to get a Capacitor for both of your amps.A 2 Farad would be the best.You are pulling way too many amps on a car that already has charging issues.
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obviously, there is a problem!

I would chase the charging system wiring and make sure the contacts to the alternator and the battery are good.

As for that alternator... damn... if that doesn't cause noise in the electrical system, I don't know what will.

Also, check the Idle Air Control valve, IAC, it's what controls idle.

You must get a factory service manual for that car, too. www.helminc.com or check the parts for sale here, or eBay.

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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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I have an 85' Vette that was having stalling problems with an idle speed around 450rpms. It would do just as your Vette does at the stop lights.(Stall) I live in Massachusetts and the outside temp rarely hits the 90's, therefore my Vette operates between 164-185 degrees. Runs great with no problems. My recomendation would be to replace the IAC, Idle Air Control Valve, then completely disconnect the sound system for a while and run the car to see how it responds. Actually I would rather listen to the engine than the sound system. That's what a Corvette's about!!
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by casinomgr
Just purchased an 85 Corvette, having some problems.

Cars in Vegas and gets up to over 220 degrees sometimes in 110 degree weather perhaps this is normal and does not overheat.

Main problem is that the volt meter comes on and will go down to 11.5 and then down to 11.2 at the lowest and sometimes stalls and has to be restarted. Usually occurs when you are in stop and go traffic.

also the average mpg is reading 16.7 is this normal?
Alan, I too just purchased an 85 - congrats! In driving it home from OH to WI, I was stuck on I-80 moving 4 miles in an hour. I saw temps hit 227 before dropping back down. I don't believe 220* coolant in 110* temp is a problem.

Later in the day, I was stuck on I-94 for an hour due to an accident and noticed my volt gauge issue a warning at 11.2. When I put it in N and did a fast idle, the volts bounced back up. No answer for you, but I've seen the same thing.

On my 500 mile road trip I averaged 17mpg in a combination of highway (75 where legal ) and stop-and-go (mostly stopped) for several hours.

Sorry I don't have the answers, but it might help to know about similar experiences.

Gary
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BobLocke1950
I have an 85' Vette that was having stalling problems with an idle speed around 450rpms. It would do just as your Vette does at the stop lights.(Stall) I live in Massachusetts and the outside temp rarely hits the 90's, therefore my Vette operates between 164-185 degrees. Runs great with no problems. My recomendation would be to replace the IAC, Idle Air Control Valve, then completely disconnect the sound system for a while and run the car to see how it responds. Actually I would rather listen to the engine than the sound system. That's what a Corvette's about!!
Nice car, Bob. Thats my favorite color on a C-4 that and Steel Blue.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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The idle on a 85 has a idle screw on the air intake.
The idle is also controlled by the IAC. On my 85 I sat the idle with the idle screw. You can also replace your IAC.

11.2 volts is a discharge rate, you'll need 12.0+ for a charge rate. A charge takes place at 12.5 and higher.

Unless you like all the power for the tunes chuck it all.
Running temps are normal.
Enjoy the car Dude!
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Originally Posted by bogus
obviously, there is a problem!

I would chase the charging system wiring and make sure the contacts to the alternator and the battery are good.

As for that alternator... damn... if that doesn't cause noise in the electrical system, I don't know what will.

Also, check the Idle Air Control valve, IAC, it's what controls idle.

You must get a factory service manual for that car, too. www.helminc.com or check the parts for sale here, or eBay.
Thanks for the advise. Was wondering what you mean about the alternator. Was it a wrong idea to put in a higher voltage one? Gonna ck out the IAC and ck contacts like you said....Thanks, Alan
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Originally Posted by ghlkal
Alan, I too just purchased an 85 - congrats! In driving it home from OH to WI, I was stuck on I-80 moving 4 miles in an hour. I saw temps hit 227 before dropping back down. I don't believe 220* coolant in 110* temp is a problem.

Later in the day, I was stuck on I-94 for an hour due to an accident and noticed my volt gauge issue a warning at 11.2. When I put it in N and did a fast idle, the volts bounced back up. No answer for you, but I've seen the same thing.

On my 500 mile road trip I averaged 17mpg in a combination of highway (75 where legal ) and stop-and-go (mostly stopped) for several hours.

Sorry I don't have the answers, but it might help to know about similar experiences.

Gary
Thanks Gary for sharing your experience with me. I am gonna get to the bottom of this thing if It kills me!
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BobLocke1950
I have an 85' Vette that was having stalling problems with an idle speed around 450rpms. It would do just as your Vette does at the stop lights.(Stall) I live in Massachusetts and the outside temp rarely hits the 90's, therefore my Vette operates between 164-185 degrees. Runs great with no problems. My recomendation would be to replace the IAC, Idle Air Control Valve, then completely disconnect the sound system for a while and run the car to see how it responds. Actually I would rather listen to the engine than the sound system. That's what a Corvette's about!!
Thanks for the imformation! I am going to replace IAC. Love the sound system so that will be hard to part with. There is about 4K in audio and video system and hopefully I can get the problem straight. Car is in awsume shape other than these little (or maybe big) problems I seem to be having. Had it out for 2 hour today, It was 108 in Vegas. Volt indicator reads low at stopping only and then goes right back up. I had stalled once last week but was in idle in the drive way for 20 minutes, then drove it a ways and let in sit in a parking lot, then it stalled when I put it in park. Thanks...Alan
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Originally Posted by redwing76
The idle on a 85 has a idle screw on the air intake.
The idle is also controlled by the IAC. On my 85 I sat the idle with the idle screw. You can also replace your IAC.

11.2 volts is a discharge rate, you'll need 12.0+ for a charge rate. A charge takes place at 12.5 and higher.

Unless you like all the power for the tunes chuck it all.
Running temps are normal.
Enjoy the car Dude!
Hey Thanks for imformation. The IAC is what every one is saying could be a problem. You guys are great out there! A corvette specialist did not even think or suggest that. Thanks for the help. My volts go up as soon as I hit the gas. It takes about 20 minutes before it will read 11.5 and that is stopped, when I start to move it goes and stays up to 12.5, 13. I love the sound system. It is very very nice. I have the problem if it is off also. Thanks...Alan
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Originally Posted by AFogleman
You need to get a Capacitor for both of your amps.A 2 Farad would be the best.You are pulling way too many amps on a car that already has charging issues.
Thanks, Gonna bring the car to an audio expert (and a friend) to check all that out for me. I can find out then if this problem is all in the audio video and alarm system. Thanks..Alan
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