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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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I'm being advised to get a good Shop manual for doing some stuff on my '85 Vette.
I think I've seen "Helms" mentioned on this forum and some others have advised to use the Chevrolet manual.

It may be personal preference but I wanted to run-it-by you guys on the forum and ask:

Does anyone know if a used manual, Chevrolet or Helms, that is available?
I did a search on Eckler's and did not find a Helms manual there...

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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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The official GM shop/service manual for our C4's just happens to BE the Helms!
They occaisonally turn up (for your particular year) on Ebay, but can be purchased new from Helminc.com (I think that's the addy). Beware, new ones...especially for the later C4's...are not inexpensive. ( I think mine was $125?)
But there's really no comparable manual.

EDIT: 65Z is correct; it is HELM, not Helms.

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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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Indeed the '85 GM Shop Manual by HELM is the one to get. It is a 1 /2" thick single volume (later years had split volumes) with a red cover.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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Ditto: the only way to go... been priceless during my upgrades and repairs
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-...spagenameZWDVW
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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If you go the eBay route, make sure the manuls have the red covers and not the white ones.

White covered manuals are preliminary versions and the red versions are the production manuals.

You can go to www.helminc.com to order a new set. The set is two books and any supplements that may have been printed after the manuals went to press.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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I wish my manual was only 1/2" thick. I had to order the reprint from www.helminc.com and mine came with a binder and is about 3 1/2" thick. I love the manual but its a pain in the azz to get through. Very helpful though and the troubleshooting will get down to the nitty gritty!. $85 delivered. Not too bad for peice of mind and worth its weight in gold!
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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I have both a Helms and a Haynes manual for mine. The Helms is definately the better of the two, but as others have said... it isn't cheap.

I think Mid America has them as well...
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the link I posted is for a red cover version on ebay for $26 right now
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 01:47 AM
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Ok you know all those crappy pictures in Haynes/Chiltons and the like. They are all copied out of the Helm manual. Thing is there are more in the Helm. I have all three and use all three but mostly the other two are used for simple quick questions and for quick reference index browsing (Helm doesn't have a manual) but you can be assured, the other two are always checked against the Helm.
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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The bible is Helms...
All others are the condensed Reader's Digest equivalent
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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I believe I get the message...
Thanks for all the responses.
Just another reason I love this forum. The best I've seen yet!!

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