Why does this always confuse me?
And the reason you can weld a wrench on the positive side and not the negative is:
When you short the negative to the car you are only pulling whatever current is drawn at the time w/ the battery hooked up. Usually everything is off except for minimal radio and ECM current and maybe a light. This is maybe 5 amps or so.
When you short the positive to the car (w/ the negative hooked up) you are pulling maximum current the battery can provide (650 cold cranking amps depending on your battery).
Last edited by thomastl; Nov 13, 2005 at 07:58 PM.
i think Ricks alot like me,been wrenching on junk for years but sometimes this new technology brings up things like this that used to not be an issue but nowdays with all the electronics on vehicles a person needs to be thinking all the time.
good post Rick,thanks for bringing it up



Anytime I work on a car I disconnect the battery. Which lead it is doesn't really matter, but for safety I disconnect the - 1st.
As long as the - is still hooked up you can short out the +.
As many have stated, electrons DO flow from negative to positive and in the sense, think of electricity as traveling from the negative post of the battery, through the ground (car's metal surfaces) into each electrical component (through their attached ground) and back to the battery (eventually) through all those red/yellow/white/etc "power" wires from individual components.
Now when you take the negative side off FIRST you can touch the wrench to the frame and nothing will happen. There is no flow of electricity FROM the negative terminal. Kill the negative side connection, kill the flow of electricty.
If you leave the negative side of the battery on, by touching a wrench to the positive side and the frame, you are creating a direct, almost zero-resistance, ground from the negative post to the positive post. Electricity is "flowing" through all metal surfaces of the car, the "ground." Electricty will ALWAYS seek the path of least resistance, and by holding a solid, conductive wrench (like most wrenches are, opposed to expensive non-conductive) from the frame to the positive post, electricity will always choose to travel that path than though all the resistors, poor wire connection, path through your car's electrical system.
Hence why, remove the negative terminal first, positive second.





That's the reason I do it that way (remove the ground first), and the only valid reason I know of.
Larry
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