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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 01:30 AM
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I know I've posted this before, but maybe not this question. So the headlight motor on the driver side isn't working properly and I probably need new gears (for both sides) but I can't justify the money right meow.

so my question is, if I can spin the **** on top of the motor and get the headlight to open, why is it when the switch is pulled and the **** spinds nothing happens? what's difference between me spinning and the "motor" spinning it?

could it be that the motor is spinning it the wrong direction and so when the switch is pushed back in it just "unspins" itself? It would seem that that would be possible only if the headlight sees a "close" voltage when the switch is pulled. Maybe I'll break out the multimeter later if it's at all possible

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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 01:34 AM
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I have the same problem right now, and I just replaced the gears. Yes you can use the **** to rotate it up. There are 2 plugs on the assembly, you'll need to disconnect the one to the motor. The other one is the light itself.

Sounds like you need to buy some bronze gears. I agree with you, they're rediculously expensive and I cant find them anywhere for less than $100.
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 05:23 AM
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Could it be the bushings? I just got mine in today and plan on installing them today hopefully.

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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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It depends on your year. '84-'87 vettes have 2 gears in the motor. '88 and up use 1 gear and delrin bushings. In either case, if your motor is on but the lights arent working right, its most likely a gear or the bushings, depending on the year.
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Are the headlight motor's close to what the F-Body Firebird's have? If so we can get Brass headlight gears for 79 dollars a set
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Are the headlight motor's close to what the F-Body Firebird's have? If so we can get Brass headlight gears for 79 dollars a set
No. Not even remotely similar
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PsychoNumber1
I know I've posted this before, but maybe not this question. So the headlight motor on the driver side isn't working properly and I probably need new gears (for both sides) but I can't justify the money right meow.

so my question is, if I can spin the **** on top of the motor and get the headlight to open, why is it when the switch is pulled and the **** spinds nothing happens? what's difference between me spinning and the "motor" spinning it?

could it be that the motor is spinning it the wrong direction and so when the switch is pushed back in it just "unspins" itself? It would seem that that would be possible only if the headlight sees a "close" voltage when the switch is pulled. Maybe I'll break out the multimeter later if it's at all possible

That's very strange. Perhaps the gears are missing a tooth? It grabs OK when you spin it gently by hand but doesn't grab when the motor spins it alot faster?

You should probably take out the motors and peek inside before you order the gears
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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No. Not even remotely similar

Figures. Thanks Gm
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If it is the bushings, go to a hardware store and pick up bushings that measure 27/64X29/64(need 3 per side). Alot cheaper, and you don't have to wait for shipping.
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If it is the bushings, go to a hardware store and pick up bushings that measure 27/64X29/64(need 3 per side). Alot cheaper, and you don't have to wait for shipping.
nope, 84-87 has gears not bushings, it's a 2 gear set per motor and most places want an arm and a leg for them.
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BilyK - that's what I don't get is that when I spin them by hand it works all fine and dandy, but when the motor spins they don't move at all (maybe a half a cm or so from time to time). When I get more free time, I'll probably pull the motors and take a look.
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Mine is going in the shop next Wednesday and that is one of the things that is going to get fixed.
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