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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:06 AM
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so i drove it in some water trying to get home (didn't have a choice) i have had distriputor problems and this doesn't seem like they did. The car starts and drives but it shakes at idle, doesn't want to accelerate, and the power isn't there (feels like a v-6 camaro). its a 93 A4 and i could use some help. I thought i flooded it and figured if i let it dry out for a few days it would be fine but i seem to be wrong

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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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Time for a shiny new opti from MSD.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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If you're lucky, the plug wires will dry out and it'll be fine. If you're not, consider the DynaSpark as a replacement for your OEM Optispark distributor.

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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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i just noticed that the alarm no longer works either, it isn't making noise anymore,

I have had opti spark problems before (on my third one in three years) and the problems I am having now don't seem to be the same thing but I could be wrong. Is there anything else that could be wrong?

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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Sure sounds like an Opti problem....

Good luck!
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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There is a very good possibility you got the opti wet. If the water was deep enough it could have pulled some in through the air intake. You could have pulled water into the engine via the intake manifold and caused damage to a valve or piston. If either of these things happened be prepared to spend a bunch of money especially if water was drawn into the engine. Hopefully it is just some wet wiring connectors that may take a few days to dry out.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Upon further research I think its time for my 4th distributor, what would be a good price range for the dynaspark with installation?

Still don't know why my alarm is no longer making noise. Guess it got wet too.... Sometimes i just hate water......
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Since it doesn't cost anything, and can be easily done, I would also check the coil and output wire for any moisture. And the rough running could be related to a vacuum leak, another check that doesn't cost anything. Is there any chance you sucked some water into the intake? If you drenched the air filter you could have drawn some into the intake.
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Originally Posted by thebeerman
Since it doesn't cost anything, and can be easily done, I would also check the coil and output wire for any moisture. And the rough running could be related to a vacuum leak, another check that doesn't cost anything. Is there any chance you sucked some water into the intake? If you drenched the air filter you could have drawn some into the intake.
I agree; these are good checks to do before you shell out for an Opti. And why have you had three in the last three years? What is going on here that caused you to replace them so frequently?

You don't state mileage, but on C4 TEch, there's a thread re LT1 Intakes, and in it CorvKidNC states he changed his original Opti which was working fine at 93K miles while doing other engine work, and put in one that now has 25K on it.

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Where I live we have a serious problem with flooding, Since the vette is my daily driver i have no choice but to rough it and hope for the best. Ive driven through stuff that i know i shouldn't have and i paid for it, literally. The car just passed 70k miles and I've had 3 optis because of water.
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Originally Posted by Hackesak
Upon further research I think its time for my 4th distributor, what would be a good price range for the dynaspark with installation?

Still don't know why my alarm is no longer making noise. Guess it got wet too.... Sometimes i just hate water......
The Dynaspark is about $600.00. Installation is free if you DIY, otherwise it should cost no more that installing an OEM Opti.

http://www.dynaspark.net/

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"Where I live we have a serious problem with flooding, Since the vette is my daily driver i have no choice but to rough it and hope for the best. Ive driven through stuff that i know i shouldn't have and i paid for it, literally. The car just passed 70k miles and I've had 3 optis because of water."

You might want to look into a 4WD beater for those days when it floods. Might be cheaper in the long run than replacing the Opti every other week.

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Old May 8, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hackesak
Where I live we have a serious problem with flooding, Since the vette is my daily driver i have no choice but to rough it and hope for the best. Ive driven through stuff that i know i shouldn't have and i paid for it, literally. The car just passed 70k miles and I've had 3 optis because of water.
Then go with the Dynaspark for sure, but I would still check the wiring harness at the opti to be sure the weatherpack seal is doing, or has done it's job first. With dealer labor you are looking at about $1k for the dynaspark installed. Have you called your insurance agent to see if it can be covered under your comprehensive covereage? Long shot, but then it is just a phone call worth maybe $1K.
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I'm with LT4CompYell, there is more going on than just water. Using any of the updated, vented opti should be solving your problem. And, I can't pass this up, it sounds like you should trade your vette for a boat! Seriously, something is toasting the system you better find before you throw more money at a fourth opti.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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If you intend to continue to submerge the engine bay of this car (and I'd really recommend you stop), the DynaSpark is your best hope of avoiding a repeat distributor failure, as it's the best-sealed unit available.

The DynaSpark installs exactly the same as the OEM Gen-1 Opti, except for the additional steps of adding the two vacuum lines for the active venting, and transferring the weatherpack connector shell from the dead Opti to the Dyna. Labor shouldn't be too much more than an OEM Opti install. Last price I heard for the Dyna was ~$600.

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Originally Posted by Hackesak
Where I live we have a serious problem with flooding, Since the vette is my daily driver i have no choice but to rough it and hope for the best. Ive driven through stuff that i know i shouldn't have and i paid for it, literally. The car just passed 70k miles and I've had 3 optis because of water.
Ahh, I see. Unfortunately, much as you'd like to have a daily "beate-rmobile", serious flooding usually happens "a la flashflooding". And that happens with no regularity or long range forecasting. There are few weather forecasters who say at 7am, "Today, we're going to have severe rains with flashflooding." Altho some do. So, I hear your problem.

Regardless, you do need the best possible Opti alternative so that hopefully this is the last time you have to replace it. Don't know (and don't want to) how much you paid for those other three Optis being put in, but if you add it up, it surely wasn't cheap.

Fix it with the better stuff this time and it may just last you through a couple more submergings. But on that item, I'm with SJW: you gotta try to stop submerging the car.

Maybe someone can give you a lift home when it's really pouring out. Or (and there may not be) use an alternate route, longer but getting you and your car home a bit drier.
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