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Old May 31, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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Hey guys. I usually hang out in the C5 section but I'm posting this on behalf of my bro. He has a 95 C4 and his check engine light came on. I've tried searching on the proper ways to retrieve codes but I'm not sure I did it correctly. I used the paperclip method and shorted pins 5 and 6. This caused the engine fans to spin full throttle and the LTPWS light to flash. We counted the flashes and kept getting 34, 44, 54. After disconnecting the battery for 10 minutes we got the same codes, so I have a feeling I didn't do something right. Thanks guys!

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44 is the left bank oxygen sensor - my SES (service engine soon) light came on as well and it idled rough as heck and my exhaust tips on my stainless steel magnaflows turned BLACK! I have an ODB I/II unit - it translates the codes into english so I don't have to short the pins. I ended up replacing the left bank oxygen sensor last Friday - I've drove the car to work over the last two days and so far so good - No more engine lights and no more codes! Anybody know what 34 and 54 are?
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34 is MAP sensor(voltage low)
MAF sensor

54 is fuel pump circuit
EGR fault (3.8L)


http://www.troublecodes.net/GM/
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My light came on the other day and hasn't come back on since. Not to hijack the thread but just wondering if anyone is aware of a good deal on a code reader.
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44 is the left bank oxygen sensor - my SES (service engine soon) light came on as well and it idled rough as heck and my exhaust tips on my stainless steel magnaflows turned BLACK! I have an ODB I/II unit - it translates the codes into english so I don't have to short the pins. I ended up replacing the left bank oxygen sensor last Friday - I've drove the car to work over the last two days and so far so good - No more engine lights and no more codes! Anybody know what 34 and 54 are?
Thanks for your help guys. So that is the correct method for pulling codes? I read somewhere else that the speedo actually displays them too, or is that something else?
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Yes, 4 and 12 pull the ones at the speedo.
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Yes, 4 and 12 pull the ones at the speedo.
Great, I'll try that tonight! So shorting pins 4 and 12 will display the same codes on the speedo, or is that a separate batch of codes? Thanks guys!
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Okay, I just pulled the codes with the new method... much better! I got C12 on module 1 and H32 on module 4. From what I've read C12 just means it's in diagnostic mode and H32 means something is wrong with the EGR valve or the MAP sensor circuit... Hmmm The engine light only comes on when the air conditioning is running. Any thoughts or inputs? Thanks in advance!
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Okay, I just pulled the codes with the new method... much better! I got C12 on module 1 and H32 on module 4. From what I've read C12 just means it's in diagnostic mode and H32 means something is wrong with the EGR valve or the MAP sensor circuit... Hmmm The engine light only comes on when the air conditioning is running. Any thoughts or inputs? Thanks in advance!
EGR is on the back/ top of motor. You can pull off with a 1/2 inch wrench, better a curved one because of limited space. Pull some past threads on service or replacement. I pulled mine cleaned, and replaced vac lines. No problems since. EGR was clogged with carbon.
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EGR is on the back/ top of motor. You can pull off with a 1/2 inch wrench, better a curved one because of limited space. Pull some past threads on service or replacement. I pulled mine cleaned, and replaced vac lines. No problems since. EGR was clogged with carbon.
Thanks for you all of your help guys, I love this forum!
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My light came on the other day and hasn't come back on since. Not to hijack the thread but just wondering if anyone is aware of a good deal on a code reader.
www.amazon.com for a code reader.
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Here i go again!!!

On a 95 you can check the codes with a paper clip as follows:

You short pin "12" to pin "4" and turn the ignition switch to "On" without starting the engine.

The speedometer will display any codes using the same protocol as the 1990-1993 model but there are some changes in the designation for the modules plus additional modules are added:

Module "1" is still the CCM module.

Module "4" is now called the PCM module (Powertrain Control Module) because automatic transmission computer control was added to Engine Control Module in 1994.

Module 7 (on the 1996 model only) is the RTD module. (This is the Real Time Dampening module which replaced the Selective Ride Control module in 1996).

Module 9 is the ABS/ASR module number from 1994 through 1996.
Finally, Module "A", the DERM (Dynamic Energy Control Module --- (the air bag control module) will be requested to show any codes.

Just like the 1990-1993 display, you read the codes on the speedometer (big) and read the module number on the trip odometer (small).

A series of dashed lines for instance “ - - -“ indicates no more stored codes for that module.

A code showing as “C12” for the CCM module (module #1) means no codes are stored. So C12 is a good thing to see.

Again, you can cause the codes to repeat by turning the ignition off for five seconds and then back on.

Turn the ignition off and remove the short to restore normal operation.


To clear the codes,

1. With ignition "off" ground terminal #12 of the DLC (use bent paper clip to connect pin 4 to pin 12)

2. Turn ignition "on".

3. Press trip/odo button on the DIC until 1.7 appears in the trip
monitor area of the instrument cluster.

4. Press eng/met button on the DIC & hold until "---" appears in the
speedometer area of the cluster, this will clear CCM DTC'S.


To clear PCM/ECM codes do the following:


1. Press the trip reset button on the DIC until the desired system is displayed. In this case it will be 4.0.

2. Press trip/odo button on the DIC until the desired diagnostic mode(4.7) is displayed on the trip monitor area of the cluster.

3. Press & hold the eng/met button on the DIC until "---" is
displayed in the speedometer area of the cluster, this will clear PCM codes.


To clear ABS/ASR codes do the following:

Same as above but you’re looking for “9.7” on the trip odo


And here are the codes

1994-1996: Diagnostic Trouble Codes
DTC #11: Malfunction Indicator Lamp Circuit.
DTC #13: Bank #1 Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit:
DTC #14: Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #15: Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage High.
DTC #16: Distributor Ignition System Low Pulse.
DTC #18: Injector Circuit.
DTC #21: Throttle Position Sensor Circuit Voltage High.
DTC #22: Throttle Position Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #23: Intake Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage High.
DTC #24: Vehicle Speed Sensor Circuit.
DTC #25: Intake Air Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #26: Evaporative Emission Canister Purge Solenoid Valve Circuit.
DTC #27: EGR Vacuum Control Signal Solenoid Valve Circuit.
DTC #28: Transmission Range Pressure Switch Assembly Fault.
DTC #29: Secondary Air Injection Pump Circuit.
DTC #32: Exhaust Gas Recalculation.
DTC #33: Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit High.
DTC #34: Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit Low.
DTC #36: Distributor Ignition System High Pulse.
DTC #37: Brake Switch Stuck On.
DTC #38: Brake Switch Stuck Off.
DTC #41: Ignition Control Circuit Open.
DTC #42: Ignition Control Circuit Shorted.
DTC #43: Knock Sensor Circuit.
DTC #44: Bank 1 LF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Lean.
DTC #45: Bank 1 LF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Rich.
DTC #47: Knock Sensor Circuit Or Module Missing.
DTC #48: Mass Air Flow Sensor Circuit.
DTC #50: System Voltage Low.
DTC #51: EPROM Programming Error.
DTC #52: Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #53: System Voltage Low.
DTC #55: Fuel Lean Monitor.
DTC #58: Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Circuit Low.
DTC #59: Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Circuit High.
DTC #62: Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #63: Bank 2 RF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Open.
DTC #64: Bank 2 RF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Lean.
DTC #65: Bank 2 RF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Rich.
DTC #66: A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Circuit Open.
DTC #67: A/C Pressure Sensor Circuit Sensor or A/C Clutch.
DTC #68: A/C Relay Circuit.
DTC #69: A /C Clutch Circuit.
DTC #70: A/C Clutch Relay Driver Circuit.
DTC #72: Vehicle Speed Sensor Loss.
DTC #73: Pressure Control Solenoid Circuit Current Error.
DTC #74: Traction Control System Circuit Low.
DTC #75: Transmission System Voltage Low
DTC #77: Primary Cooling Fan Relay Control Circuit.
DTC #78: Secondary Cooling Fan Relay Control Circuit.
DTC #79: Transmission Fluid Overtemp.
DTC #80: Transmission Component Slipping.
DTC #81: Transmission 2-3 Shift Solenoid Circuit.
DTC #82: Transmission 1-2 Shift Solenoid Circuit.
DTC #83: Torque Converter Solenoid Voltage High.
DTC #84: 3-2 Control Solenoid Circuit.(Auto Only).
DTC #84: 2nd And 3rd Gear Blockout Relay Control Circuit.
DTC #85: Transmission TCC Stock On.
DTC #90: Transmission TCC Solenoid Circuit.
DTC #91: One To Four Upshift Lamp(Manual Only).
DTC #97: VSS Output Circuit.
DTC #98: Tachometer Output Signal Voltage Wrong.



Forget the light flashing rubish, do it with the 4 and 12 as stated in previous posts and use my list here to find out the issues the ECM lists, the codes you listed dont all exsist for 94. .

Originally Posted by shacky
My light came on the other day and hasn't come back on since. Not to hijack the thread but just wondering if anyone is aware of a good deal on a code reader.
Originally Posted by redwing76
www.amazon.com for a code reader.
Forget the code reader....... Why waste money on something you dont want or need???

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Originally Posted by Casethecorvetteman
Here i go again!!!

On a 95 you can check the codes with a paper clip as follows:

You short pin "12" to pin "4" and turn the ignition switch to "On" without starting the engine.

The speedometer will display any codes using the same protocol as the 1990-1993 model but there are some changes in the designation for the modules plus additional modules are added:

Module "1" is still the CCM module.

Module "4" is now called the PCM module (Powertrain Control Module) because automatic transmission computer control was added to Engine Control Module in 1994.

Module 7 (on the 1996 model only) is the RTD module. (This is the Real Time Dampening module which replaced the Selective Ride Control module in 1996).

Module 9 is the ABS/ASR module number from 1994 through 1996.
Finally, Module "A", the DERM (Dynamic Energy Control Module --- (the air bag control module) will be requested to show any codes.

Just like the 1990-1993 display, you read the codes on the speedometer (big) and read the module number on the trip odometer (small).

A series of dashed lines for instance “ - - -“ indicates no more stored codes for that module.

A code showing as “C12” for the CCM module (module #1) means no codes are stored. So C12 is a good thing to see.

Again, you can cause the codes to repeat by turning the ignition off for five seconds and then back on.

Turn the ignition off and remove the short to restore normal operation.


To clear the codes,

1. With ignition "off" ground terminal #12 of the DLC (use bent paper clip to connect pin 4 to pin 12)

2. Turn ignition "on".

3. Press trip/odo button on the DIC until 1.7 appears in the trip
monitor area of the instrument cluster.

4. Press eng/met button on the DIC & hold until "---" appears in the
speedometer area of the cluster, this will clear CCM DTC'S.


To clear PCM/ECM codes do the following:


1. Press the trip reset button on the DIC until the desired system is displayed. In this case it will be 4.0.

2. Press trip/odo button on the DIC until the desired diagnostic mode(4.7) is displayed on the trip monitor area of the cluster.

3. Press & hold the eng/met button on the DIC until "---" is
displayed in the speedometer area of the cluster, this will clear PCM codes.


To clear ABS/ASR codes do the following:

Same as above but you’re looking for “9.7” on the trip odo


And here are the codes

1994-1996: Diagnostic Trouble Codes
DTC #11: Malfunction Indicator Lamp Circuit.
DTC #13: Bank #1 Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit:
DTC #14: Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #15: Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage High.
DTC #16: Distributor Ignition System Low Pulse.
DTC #18: Injector Circuit.
DTC #21: Throttle Position Sensor Circuit Voltage High.
DTC #22: Throttle Position Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #23: Intake Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage High.
DTC #24: Vehicle Speed Sensor Circuit.
DTC #25: Intake Air Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #26: Evaporative Emission Canister Purge Solenoid Valve Circuit.
DTC #27: EGR Vacuum Control Signal Solenoid Valve Circuit.
DTC #28: Transmission Range Pressure Switch Assembly Fault.
DTC #29: Secondary Air Injection Pump Circuit.
DTC #32: Exhaust Gas Recalculation.
DTC #33: Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit High.
DTC #34: Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit Low.
DTC #36: Distributor Ignition System High Pulse.
DTC #37: Brake Switch Stuck On.
DTC #38: Brake Switch Stuck Off.
DTC #41: Ignition Control Circuit Open.
DTC #42: Ignition Control Circuit Shorted.
DTC #43: Knock Sensor Circuit.
DTC #44: Bank 1 LF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Lean.
DTC #45: Bank 1 LF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Rich.
DTC #47: Knock Sensor Circuit Or Module Missing.
DTC #48: Mass Air Flow Sensor Circuit.
DTC #50: System Voltage Low.
DTC #51: EPROM Programming Error.
DTC #52: Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #53: System Voltage Low.
DTC #55: Fuel Lean Monitor.
DTC #58: Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Circuit Low.
DTC #59: Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Circuit High.
DTC #62: Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #63: Bank 2 RF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Open.
DTC #64: Bank 2 RF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Lean.
DTC #65: Bank 2 RF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Rich.
DTC #66: A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Circuit Open.
DTC #67: A/C Pressure Sensor Circuit Sensor or A/C Clutch.
DTC #68: A/C Relay Circuit.
DTC #69: A /C Clutch Circuit.
DTC #70: A/C Clutch Relay Driver Circuit.
DTC #72: Vehicle Speed Sensor Loss.
DTC #73: Pressure Control Solenoid Circuit Current Error.
DTC #74: Traction Control System Circuit Low.
DTC #75: Transmission System Voltage Low
DTC #77: Primary Cooling Fan Relay Control Circuit.
DTC #78: Secondary Cooling Fan Relay Control Circuit.
DTC #79: Transmission Fluid Overtemp.
DTC #80: Transmission Component Slipping.
DTC #81: Transmission 2-3 Shift Solenoid Circuit.
DTC #82: Transmission 1-2 Shift Solenoid Circuit.
DTC #83: Torque Converter Solenoid Voltage High.
DTC #84: 3-2 Control Solenoid Circuit.(Auto Only).
DTC #84: 2nd And 3rd Gear Blockout Relay Control Circuit.
DTC #85: Transmission TCC Stock On.
DTC #90: Transmission TCC Solenoid Circuit.
DTC #91: One To Four Upshift Lamp(Manual Only).
DTC #97: VSS Output Circuit.
DTC #98: Tachometer Output Signal Voltage Wrong.



Forget the light flashing rubish, do it with the 4 and 12 as stated in previous posts and use my list here to find out the issues the ECM lists, the codes you listed dont all exsist for 94. .




Forget the code reader....... Why waste money on something you dont want or need???
Cuz, its works on other cars that don't take a paper clip, and its a lot faster.
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Why buy a code reader - specially a dual purpose code reader? I have ODB I and ODB II autos that's why. I plug it in, it works faster than your method that's for sure Wow that's two reasons right there already. Need I keep going? Heck the one I have is multi-manufacturer as well (reads Ford, GM, Chrysler). Gee, that's 3 reasons.
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Why buy a code reader - specially a dual purpose code reader? I have ODB I and ODB II autos that's why. I plug it in, it works faster than your method that's for sure Wow that's two reasons right there already. Need I keep going? Heck the one I have is multi-manufacturer as well (reads Ford, GM, Chrysler). Gee, that's 3 reasons.
Well my answer to that will go like this. We are not dicussing what you will use it for, the question was in regards to a 95 Corvette, and for the sake of 30 seconds which is ALL it takes to retrieve the codes this way. If the question was about different year models, my sugestion wouldve been different. But, its not, so my sugestion is not. So IF we were talking about you, which we are not, youd buy one. At the end of the day, its up to the bloke that owns the car if he would like to spend his money on it, but there is no advantage what so ever to using it on a 95(which is what the question was about), hence, a needless item. And there is an extra $25 that stays in his pocket.
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Casethecorvetteman, thanks for posting the Code List.

I think a lot of people buy a code reader just so they don't have to stand on their heads trying to get the paperclip in the correct numbered plug holes. Because of this I considered buying a code reader myself but found this easier solution. Buy a J1962M to J1962F - 5 foot extension cable. http://obd2cables.com/products/ (click on the cable shown on the link page-this is the cable) This way I can sit comfortably in the driver's seat, do the paperclip thing, and record the codes from the dash.(and drink a beer at the same time!
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Casethecorvetteman, thanks for posting the Code List.

I think a lot of people buy a code reader just so they don't have to stand on their heads trying to get the paperclip in the correct numbered plug holes. Because of this I considered buying a code reader myself but found this easier solution. Buy a J1962M to J1962F - 5 foot extension cable. http://obd2cables.com/products/ (click on the cable shown on the link page-this is the cable) This way I can sit comfortably in the driver's seat, do the paperclip thing, and record the codes from the dash.(and drink a beer at the same time!
No worries mate, im not sure of the exact location of the ALDC on a left hand drive car, mine is right hand drive and the connector is on the right hand side of the car and its not hard to get to at all if you move the steering wheel up.
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Originally Posted by Casethecorvetteman
Well my answer to that will go like this. We are not dicussing what you will use it for, the question was in regards to a 95 Corvette, and for the sake of 30 seconds which is ALL it takes to retrieve the codes this way. If the question was about different year models, my sugestion wouldve been different. But, its not, so my sugestion is not. So IF we were talking about you, which we are not, youd buy one. At the end of the day, its up to the bloke that owns the car if he would like to spend his money on it, but there is no advantage what so ever to using it on a 95(which is what the question was about), hence, a needless item. And there is an extra $25 that stays in his pocket.
Well "Mate" your comment: "Forget the code reader....... Why waste money on something you dont want or need???" Sounded like an open ended remarkto me. I simply stated why you might want to buy one! Some of us do own more than one auto!
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Originally Posted by IrishJoker
Well "Mate" your comment: "Forget the code reader....... Why waste money on something you dont want or need???" Sounded like an open ended remarkto me. I simply stated why you might want to buy one! Some of us do own more than one auto!
No, it was a comment to all the people suggesting the thread starter (or his mate with the 95) that he had to go out and buy one. Again, its really not about what you do or dont own or want to use what on, the comment and suggestions i made were angled towards a bloke stating an issue with a 95. Plain and simple.
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By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


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