C4 General Discussion General C4 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech

CA Emission ???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 10:27 PM
  #1  
stax68's Avatar
stax68
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 875
Likes: 1
Default CA Emission ???

Is it true that only the C4 vettes sold in CA were what's known as
50 state cars ? and are the only ones that can pass the CA
emission test and be registered by CA DMV.

Whereas all the cars sold in other states were 49 state cars
and were all made to be sold in the other 49 states ? and not
in CA..
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 10:44 PM
  #2  
paulies85's Avatar
paulies85
Intermediate
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
From: national city calif
Default

I don't think so, my 85 came from Neb. I have a hotter cam and some other engine goodies, and it passes smog here in the peoples republic of Calif. every other year.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2006 | 11:25 PM
  #3  
tonymax2's Avatar
tonymax2
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,183
Likes: 1
From: MidOhio
Default

I don't know for sure but I doubt it. A CA car in '89 had to be certified to CA's levels but one guy told me there was no difference other than the factory might have had to "tweak" some of the emission control hardware to meet the requirements. Back in '80, the only V8 engine GM had certified that would meet CA req'mts was the LG4, 305 cu. in., so 'vettes sold in CA got it. All others got the 350. After the engineers got better at managing the engine controls and the changing req'mnts settled down, all 'vettes got the same size engines.
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2006 | 01:38 AM
  #4  
jabez's Avatar
jabez
Race Director
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 17,066
Likes: 3
From: Milpitas ca
Default

Bought my 1992 C4 in Arizona and it passed emmissions in California with no problems.
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2006 | 02:01 AM
  #5  
JrsTurn's Avatar
JrsTurn
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 329
Likes: 0
From: Antioch California
Default

Originally Posted by stax68
Is it true that only the C4 vettes sold in CA were what's known as
50 state cars ? and are the only ones that can pass the CA
emission test and be registered by CA DMV.

Whereas all the cars sold in other states were 49 state cars
and were all made to be sold in the other 49 states ? and not
in CA..
Yes. Same is true of Harleys and I'm sure many other vehicles. That's not to say however, that a car built in another state for another state won't pass emissions here...May just need one more power robbing thingamajig attatched to the engine
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2006 | 09:25 AM
  #6  
TripleBlack88's Avatar
TripleBlack88
Advanced
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
From: Ocean NJ
Default

As I recall, in California you could buy only a "50 state" car. But "50 state" cars were also sold in other states.
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2006 | 10:02 AM
  #7  
stax68's Avatar
stax68
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 875
Likes: 1
Default

Yes..this is true. Anyone have any idea what percent of cars
were 50 state cars that were sold in other states for the C4
generation.

Also exactly where is the tag and what does it say....so you
know that it's a 50 state car.
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2006 | 10:23 AM
  #8  
jabez's Avatar
jabez
Race Director
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 17,066
Likes: 3
From: Milpitas ca
Default

Originally Posted by stax68
Yes..this is true. Anyone have any idea what percent of cars
were 50 state cars that were sold in other states for the C4
generation.

Also exactly where is the tag and what does it say....so you
know that it's a 50 state car.
Not positive but I think its on the driver side door panel.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Jul 29, 2006 | 10:28 AM
  #9  
jabez's Avatar
jabez
Race Director
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 17,066
Likes: 3
From: Milpitas ca
Default

Originally Posted by stax68
Yes..this is true. Anyone have any idea what percent of cars
were 50 state cars that were sold in other states for the C4
generation.
What year car you looking at? The number may vary depending on the year.
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2006 | 10:35 AM
  #10  
stax68's Avatar
stax68
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 875
Likes: 1
Default

Been looking at years 1991-1996

I thought tag was under the hood but I could be wrong...
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2006 | 11:14 AM
  #11  
AORoads's Avatar
AORoads
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46,295
Likes: 2,596
From: Northern, VA
St. Jude Donor '15
"In honor of jpee"
Default

You could buy a 50 state car in any state. All you had to do was check the box on the order form. True for many/most cars.
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2006 | 11:21 AM
  #12  
jabez's Avatar
jabez
Race Director
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 17,066
Likes: 3
From: Milpitas ca
Default

Originally Posted by stax68
Been looking at years 1991-1996

I thought tag was under the hood but I could be wrong...
If you can't find the sticker another source would to be to check the RPO numbers under the arm rest cover.
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2006 | 12:06 PM
  #13  
redwing76's Avatar
redwing76
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 6,715
Likes: 2
From: Santa Teresa New Mexico
Default

Originally Posted by stax68
Been looking at years 1991-1996

I thought tag was under the hood but I could be wrong...
Yep, under the hood. But all cars are CA legal now.
Will a 50 states car pass in CA, with flying colors.

My 74 Corvette coupe was out of Washington State with headers, no smog pump, and blew cleaner than a California car.

It passed in Oregon, Washington, and California.
Pre 1986 American cars are the hardest to get to pass.
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2006 | 01:29 PM
  #14  
SunCr's Avatar
SunCr
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 7,839
Likes: 22
From: San Diego, Ca
Default

There were no differences and haven't been in the last 25 Years. CA cars required an emissions check on the line and that set you back $100or so on the Sticker. This folklore has been around for too long - get over it. Realize that things that live in the dry Southwest have one plus - no road salt to eat things up. Unfortunately, there's plenty of hot sun that does wonders on leather, vinyl and paint.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2006 | 03:50 PM
  #15  
stax68's Avatar
stax68
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 875
Likes: 1
Default

So basically you guys are saying...that any corvette bought in last
25 years should be able to pass the emissions test..

Even if it may not have the 50 state tag..
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2006 | 03:57 PM
  #16  
bbbear97's Avatar
bbbear97
Advanced
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
From: Bend OR
Default

Originally Posted by stax68
Is it true that only the C4 vettes sold in CA were what's known as
50 state cars ? and are the only ones that can pass the CA
emission test and be registered by CA DMV.

Whereas all the cars sold in other states were 49 state cars
and were all made to be sold in the other 49 states ? and not
in CA..
Not true! I just brought an '84 in from Indiana and it was a 49 state vehicle. It passed emissions with flying colors last week. The rule in California is that all new cars (or cars manufactured after 2000) have to have the 50 state sticker. A car is considered new if it has less than 7500 miles on it. If you need more info about CA emissions check out the California DMV website. I found this very useful when I was licensing my new ride!
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2006 | 07:25 PM
  #17  
SunCr's Avatar
SunCr
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 7,839
Likes: 22
From: San Diego, Ca
Default

Registration and Smog Equipment are two different things. Some of CA's "Out of State" Registration Regs were thrown out by the Supreme Court in 2002 - 2003 (?) as a restraint against free trade - Woolsey v. CA (or something like that). Partcularly the issue involving the payment of a smog impact fee (which was being charged to those who brought in new from out of State). Those that applied for the refund were given one and at least that part of the Law no longer exists. I would imagine that if the State is still trying to enforce the rule that you've cited it could be easily challenged on the same merits - I don't know - I'm not effected. The original question, is there any mechanical difference between a CA vehicle and one sold somewhere else - no - and there hasn't been for eons but the stories persist.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To CA Emission ???





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:35 PM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE