You've got to be kidding (oil change pt2)
#21
Originally Posted by shilly
OK, don't kill me but.... What is the problem with a Fram Extra Guard oil filter? I was reading "101 projects for your corvette," by Richard Newton and he discusses a study that some of the high performance oil filters filtered too well and got "totally plugged" within 1000 miles and the oil started to go through the bypass circuit and didn't get filtered at all.
Dont use frams in my Vette only A/C Delco
But I do use fram on my S10 and sense it was new with castrol sny blend oil and oil looks clean after 3000 miles so i say they must be half decent
Just my 2 cents
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Originally Posted by Repzard
Dont use frams in my Vette only A/C Delco
#23
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Originally Posted by shilly
OK, don't kill me but.... What is the problem with a Fram Extra Guard oil filter? I was reading "101 projects for your corvette," by Richard Newton and he discusses a study that some of the high performance oil filters filtered too well and got "totally plugged" within 1000 miles and the oil started to go through the bypass circuit and didn't get filtered at all.
Change your oil regularly with a brand name filter and I seriously doubt anyone would ever see a problem.
Also, I just came from Azone and they had a special on 5 qts of Castrol and a Fram oil filter for $11.99. Not sure if that's in all areas, but thought I'd pass it along.
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Originally Posted by Perfusion
Only a few will catch this one...
K&N filter, Mobil-1 5W-30 SuperSyn. Other (acceptable) filters would be Mobil-1, AC Delco, and/or Wix.
K&N filter, Mobil-1 5W-30 SuperSyn. Other (acceptable) filters would be Mobil-1, AC Delco, and/or Wix.
5w30 and a K&N. Wally World has a great price on the Moble 1 in a 5 quart container.
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There was a non-scientific (but very revealing) oil filter study done by a guy that clearly showed the reason some oil filters like Fram are so cheap to purchase. They are junk. Check it out and decide for yourself at: http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfi...ilfilters.html
I used to use Fram oil filters on my Nissan pickup and it would rattle the first couple of seconds at start up. Based upon the above web page results showing that the Fram anti-drain back valve was poorly constructed, I switched to Purolator. Immediate difference. No more rattle on start up.
Fram used to be pretty good, but Allied-Signal bought them and shipped a lot of the manufacturing out of the US and cheapened the product to the point where it is now junk.
Newton may have a point that if the performance filters clog at 1000 miles and the oil isn't being filtered that is bad. I would ask however, why would a quality manufacturer build a product that essentially fails in 1000 miles, and if it is filtering "too good", maybe you need to find out what the heck is clogging a premium quality filter at 1000 miles?
I used to use Fram oil filters on my Nissan pickup and it would rattle the first couple of seconds at start up. Based upon the above web page results showing that the Fram anti-drain back valve was poorly constructed, I switched to Purolator. Immediate difference. No more rattle on start up.
Fram used to be pretty good, but Allied-Signal bought them and shipped a lot of the manufacturing out of the US and cheapened the product to the point where it is now junk.
Newton may have a point that if the performance filters clog at 1000 miles and the oil isn't being filtered that is bad. I would ask however, why would a quality manufacturer build a product that essentially fails in 1000 miles, and if it is filtering "too good", maybe you need to find out what the heck is clogging a premium quality filter at 1000 miles?
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I got a deal with mobil 1 10w30 5 qts plus mobil 1 oil filter for 30 bucks.
Autozone clerks dont know nothing, i ask clerk for timing light gun she replied we dont sell them infact it was hanging right behind the counter i say damn u, she was pissed bigtime.
Autozone clerks dont know nothing, i ask clerk for timing light gun she replied we dont sell them infact it was hanging right behind the counter i say damn u, she was pissed bigtime.
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Originally Posted by Corvette for life
i use mobil1 10w-30 and Fram toughguard 30 filter on my 83
My book shows 83's will not run on synthetic - only dino oil
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Originally Posted by C4boy
Nothing is wrong with Fram, they're an excellent filter. They've always been known as a filter with high flow but still capable of trapping microscopic particles.
The fact that they have 6 different lines of filters should tell you something. They also make these crap filters for other filter 'manufacturers' as well. The expensive ones are decent filters, but they don't save you any money.
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Wow, an 83!! How does it drive? I have heard they run really really smooth. I bet the insurance on that car is alot. Hey, what color is it btw? How does it compare to the 82 and the 84?
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Here's a fun thing to do. Buy a Fram and a Wix filter, then cut them open. Surprise, surprise, surprise! The Fram will look like there's not much of a filter. The Wix will look like a filter.
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Fram is ghetto garbage. Don't use them. Go to your local NAPA parts counter and you can see the actual product cutaways of a Fram and NAPA Gold Filter.
You will run out of the store in sheer terror after you realize how poorly contstructed Fram filters are.
You will run out of the store in sheer terror after you realize how poorly contstructed Fram filters are.
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Originally Posted by onedef92
Fram is ghetto garbage. Don't use them. Go to your local NAPA parts counter and you can see the actual product cutaways of a Fram and NAPA Gold Filter.
You will run out of the store in sheer terror after you realize how poorly contstructed Fram filters are.
You will run out of the store in sheer terror after you realize how poorly contstructed Fram filters are.
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oil change pt3
howdy all,
well i just got back from the great white north (vaca in NE) and have finally finished the oil change in the vette so now it's ready for carlisle.
first i would like to kill this thread
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1465448
it's gone on too long
so i made my trek to advance auto parts who happens to be having a sale on mobil 1. i picked up a case of oil, a new gasket, and a mobil 1 filter (you have to ask for these as they just started carrying them) the filter came highly recommended from the manager who just came back from a conference where they demoed all the filters side by side. the mobil filter blew everyone away (even K&N).
This has to be the easiest work i've done on the car so far. jacked her up, unplugged, untwisted the filter, all new back in and done.
the only time consuming part was waiting for the very last drop of old oil to come from the pan (i'm **** that way ).
so thanks to all for your help. and see y'all in PA this weekend
well i just got back from the great white north (vaca in NE) and have finally finished the oil change in the vette so now it's ready for carlisle.
first i would like to kill this thread
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1465448
it's gone on too long
so i made my trek to advance auto parts who happens to be having a sale on mobil 1. i picked up a case of oil, a new gasket, and a mobil 1 filter (you have to ask for these as they just started carrying them) the filter came highly recommended from the manager who just came back from a conference where they demoed all the filters side by side. the mobil filter blew everyone away (even K&N).
This has to be the easiest work i've done on the car so far. jacked her up, unplugged, untwisted the filter, all new back in and done.
the only time consuming part was waiting for the very last drop of old oil to come from the pan (i'm **** that way ).
so thanks to all for your help. and see y'all in PA this weekend
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Originally Posted by wolverine1967
they sell these at autozone?
...just get the AC Delco filter and then buy yourself a cheap lunch w/ the cash you saved
and yes, Mobil 1 5w-30 is the right oil for that car.
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Originally Posted by Kwikerthanu
Here's a fun thing to do. Buy a Fram and a Wix filter, then cut them open. Surprise, surprise, surprise! The Fram will look like there's not much of a filter. The Wix will look like a filter.
I have used the Fram filters on my DD and never had an issue in 128k mi
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Originally Posted by shilly
OK, don't kill me but.... What is the problem with a Fram Extra Guard oil filter? I was reading "101 projects for your corvette," by Richard Newton and he discusses a study that some of the high performance oil filters filtered too well and got "totally plugged" within 1000 miles and the oil started to go through the bypass circuit and didn't get filtered at all.
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Originally Posted by wolverine1967
I don't have the car or specs of what to get with me but figured they'd be able to pull that info up at the counter right?
...he asks me if it's a FORD!
...he asks me if it's a FORD!
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If those guys knew their chet they wouldnt be working at Autozone, these days you have to tell them the PN you need when you walk in. Sign of the times.