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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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I've been wondering.... how many 94 C4's were built like my vette? I understand that Bowling Green does not keep track, or provide stats on how many vehicles were built with a given set of equipment. I've seen the production numbers for '94 and the closest I can come so far is 2,770 ( I have the black rag top), however, there obviously were a number of other colored vehicles that had a black rag top and two other colored tops besides my white ( 4,066 ) one. Has anyone come up with a way or formula to take the build sheet and the published production stats to generate a number of like equiped vehicles in a production run?

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Give a list of every option you have. A few years back I calculated this for my 95 comp yellow vert. Came up with about 20 vettes just like mine, the same year, color, vert top color, options...in the world for a 95.

List color, top color, every factory option..and when I get home tonight I will try to calculate a number for you.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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WOW! Only 20? I got mine a couple months ago and I haven't ordered the build sheet yet, but from what I can see is that mine is pretty basic. It's a Base convert, seat options AC1, AC3 It's Artic White with a black rag top. Interior is flame red and black. Thanks much for volunteering to help! Wes
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The 95 has the FX3, spare tire delete with Goodyear run-flat tires, black interior, competition yellow, black vert top, Bose CD/cassette, and a few other things I will have to look them up (been a few years). There were more than 20 comp yellow black top verts made, but only 20 exactly like mine (had it since '98). It will be tonight before I can look it up, but the more info you give on it...the better number I can give.
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Originally Posted by raggtopp
I've been wondering.... how many 94 C4's were built like my vette? I understand that Bowling Green does not keep track, or provide stats on how many vehicles were built with a given set of equipment. I've seen the production numbers for '94 and the closest I can come so far is 2,770 ( I have the black rag top), however, there obviously were a number of other colored vehicles that had a black rag top and two other colored tops besides my white ( 4,066 ) one. Has anyone come up with a way or formula to take the build sheet and the published production stats to generate a number of like equiped vehicles in a production run?
I suggest it can't be done though I wish it could...there are no records of the "combinations" ... only the raw numbers of the individual options... so any calc is a guess and if you state that yours is "one of 20 made" its bogus. Your only valid claim is one of XXXX where XXXX is the lowest number of any individual option. Wish it werent so...since logically you know it's a smaller number....just can't prove it or calculate it with available data.

Enjoy the car...its one of the only ones you own

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Originally Posted by raggtopp
WOW! Only 20? I got mine a couple months ago and I haven't ordered the build sheet yet, but from what I can see is that mine is pretty basic. It's a Base convert, seat options AC1, AC3 It's Artic White with a black rag top. Interior is flame red and black. Thanks much for volunteering to help! Wes
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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Open the console lid and you'll see a list of RPO codes. That's probably what he needs. I think there is a sticky somewhere that decodes all of those RPO codes. The only ones that I know by heart are FX3 and ZR1

The statement about the mathematical combinations missed at least one important point. If there were to be a particular option which was only found on 20 cars, then his must be one of them.
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Some quick thoughts/observation:

There were 1,059 Arctic White convertibles made in 1994.

2,770 of all 5,346 1994 convertibles had the black top, or about 52%.

Thus, approximately 549 1994 Arctic White convertibles had the black top.
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Originally Posted by j3studio
Some quick thoughts/observation:

There were 1,059 Arctic White convertibles made in 1994.

2,770 of all 5,346 1994 convertibles had the black top, or about 52%.

Thus, approximately 549 1994 Arctic White convertibles had the black top.
This is a good approx number. I was looking for the RPO codes to help in the accuracy.

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so any calc is a guess and if you state that yours is "one of 20 made" its bogus.
Only 418 vettes were made in 95 with the spare tire delete option. How many do you think also had the RPO's 1YY67, FX3, UJ6, WY5, N84, CC2, and G92 with Competition Yellow paint, black top and interior. I don't think you will find many made just like it.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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Has options numbers, but not combination numbers. If you have another year besides a 94, simply change the digits from 94 to the last 2 digits of the year you have in the url

http://www.idavette.net/facts/94.htm
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i am sure there is some mathematical formula that can be used to come close to accurately determining this. since we have all the facts on combinations. must be part of some science of statistics. i am sure there is some math geek out there who can come up with something. sure ain't me.. i didn't pay attention in school.
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Originally Posted by bdvdvh7
I am sure there is some mathematical formula that can be used to come close to accurately determining this. Since we have all the facts on combinations. Must be part of some science of statistics.
God help me, I've actually done some preliminary work on Corvette statistical analysis for all years. You can, with a very high level of probability, determine a range of values.
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So hard to believe in these days of automation that the numbers aren't readily available. They have to be existing in a data base at GM??
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Originally Posted by raggtopp
So hard to believe in these days of automation that the numbers aren't readily available. They have to be existing in a data base at GM??
There's been a lot of discussion about this in the NCRS, where we really care about numbers . The thought is that it would require a lot of data mining, at least for earlier cars...
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Ok, riddle me this.....
91 white conv. blue top, manual driver and passenger blue std leather int., auto trans, FE1 suspension, base AM/FM cass. non bose radio, manual heater and A/c controls. Pretty much a no option car except the blue leather seats.

What I do know is there where only 162 blue conv. tops that year and it was limited to Steel Blue Met. & Turquoise Met. according to GM, the little black book and some C4 spec book. They all seem to be in agreement.
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Originally Posted by Stang-etr96
Ok, riddle me this.....
91 white conv. blue top, manual driver and passenger blue std leather int., auto trans, FE1 suspension, base AM/FM cass. non bose radio, manual heater and A/c controls. Pretty much a no option car except the blue leather seats.

What I do know is there where only 162 blue conv. tops that year and it was limited to Steel Blue Met. & Turquoise Met. according to GM, the little black book and some C4 spec book. They all seem to be in agreement.
There are always suggested color combinations, but if you ask long enough and hard enough, you can get anything that is listed as an available color. This is still true even with C6s...
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I believe that I've read in the black book that there have been a couple periods where a customer could chose color combinations other than GM's suggested choices. You could have a very rare ragtop there Stang!!
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