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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Yesterday I finally got the garage cleaned up enough to get a car in here........

I changed out the Brake master Cylinder; it was suffering from blow by.

This issue of bleeding the air out of the lines came up. The Fluid in mine was brown so running new fluid through out the entire system was in order. But for the sake of discussion, let's say the fluid was good.

If you replace the MC there is air in the lines. You have to bleed it out the traditional way. Have you ever replaced the Pads on your car?? You know how if you have the fluid topped off in the reservoir.....it will overflow as you force the Brake calipers to the wide open position.

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Instead of forcing the bubble to travel through the brake lines and out the bleeder valve on the Caliper, could you just force the Calipers open to force the Air bubbles back up the system and out the Fill reservoir?

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Instead of forcing the bubble to travel through the brake lines and out the bleeder valve on the Caliper, could you just force the Calipers open to force the Air bubbles back up the system and out the Fill reservoir?
Yes if the bubble was for sure that close to the MC.

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Why consider short cutting the brake bleeding process?
Is not the objective is to remove ALL the old fluid and purge all the air?

Then remember to change the fluid every 24 months or less.

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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
Yes if the bubble was for sure that close to the MC.

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Why consider short cutting the brake bleeding process?
Is not the objective is to remove ALL the old fluid and purge all the air?

Then remember to change the fluid every 24 months or less.

Well, that is why I did the traditional brake bleed process......the stuff was so bad that I had to use a paint brush to loosen the grime at the bottem of the plastic fill resevoirs

But you answered my question...that and all the visits to the thread and nobody has debunked the theory.
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Air from the M/C change would be close to the top, sure try depressing and holding down each caliper, that'd be plenty of fluid shot into the M/C. I'd wait a while for the bubbles to get through the fluid before releasing the calipers. So it didn't suck in small bubbles.
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Does bleeding the system the "normal" way get rid of all the old fluid or do you need to do something else to completely flush the system ?

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Originally Posted by alanzilo92
Does bleeding the system the "normal" way get rid of all the old fluid or do you need to do something else to completely flush the system ?

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Yes, bleeding your brakes the "normal" way will eventually remove all of the fluid. If you are going to do a complete fluid exchange, you might want to look into a vacuum bleeder (ala Mighty Vac) or a pressure bleed system. I bought a generic Mighty Vac and it worked great. Just make sure to keep fluid in the master cylinder.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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I use the Motiv Power Bleeder for single handed bleeding. It eliminated the need to long stroke the piston in the MC possiibly introducing trash into the ABS and the rest of the system. I didn't spill a drop! (of fluid, beer was all over the place.)
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