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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 03:33 AM
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I used to own a few C4 coupes, hated taking the roof off because of the way the car felt flimsy & loose with it removed. Have owned 2 C5 verts, very solid feeling, all the time. How do the C4 verts feel, specifically the 96's?? Do they feel tight like a coupe with the roof on?Somewhere in between? Thanks.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ZR1fevr
I used to own a few C4 coupes, hated taking the roof off because of the way the car felt flimsy & loose with it removed. Have owned 2 C5 verts, very solid feeling, all the time. How do the C4 verts feel, specifically the 96's?? Do they feel tight like a coupe with the roof on?Somewhere in between? Thanks.

I have a '95 vert..feels pretty solid to me no flexible flyer type ride, maybe verts are built stiffer..not sure..I also own two 1970 Mustangs. one is a vert..it does have some extra bracing on the frame that a coupe does not have. I think that accounts for the extra weight in verts, Perhaps Vettes are the same. Not sure I have never owned a vette coupe.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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I have a 94 and it did have some cowl shake and flexing to it when I bought it. I did some additional bracing in the form of boxing the x brace, Camber brace, and a brace between the seat belt points. It is now much more solid, my buddy who has a c5 is amazed by it, thinks it is just as solid as his. Stock for Stock though, there is no comparison.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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I have a 94 and it did have some cowl shake and flexing to it when I bought it. I did some additional bracing in the form of boxing the x brace, Camber brace, and a brace between the seat belt points. It is now much more solid, my buddy who has a c5 is amazed by it, thinks it is just as solid as his. Stock for Stock though, there is no comparison.
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Could you post some picks of your camber brace and seat belt brace intalls? I would like to do these upgrades as well. Thanks

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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96 vert, its the X-brace that adds stiffness. The x-brace makes up for what the vert is missing above. Mine rides stiff and has very little body flex.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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My 95 vert is also very tight and stiff.I know the "X" brace helps to make the body rigid
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Here is a picture of the X-Brace on my 1990 Vert. It's just the standard factory brace on all Convertibles.

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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My 95 vert is also very tight and stiff.I know the "X" brace helps to make the body rigid
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Can you put the factory brace(s) from a vert on a coupe?
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Originally Posted by ZR1fevr
I used to own a few C4 coupes, hated taking the roof off because of the way the car felt flimsy & loose with it removed. Have owned 2 C5 verts, very solid feeling, all the time. How do the C4 verts feel, specifically the 96's?? Do they feel tight like a coupe with the roof on?Somewhere in between? Thanks.
IMHO, my '96 vert does not feel as tight as a C5 vert...even with the x-brace. They aren't as tight as a C4 coupe with the roof on, either. I don't think the flex is too bad, though. My 96 vert is my daily driver and I think it is tight enough for daily driving duty. I have had it for 6 months....the more I drive it, the more I like it.
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Can you put the factory brace(s) from a vert on a coupe?
Not easily. If you look closely at the pic of trulytex's car, you can see a number of studs and nuts inside the brace close to the cat. These studs are affixed to the floorpan and are not on the coupe. Also the rear corner mounting holes are not on the coupe frame but are on the front frame corners.

R-D Racing has a Cross-Frame that looks the same as the vert X-frame. It comes with a set of nutserts that are inserted into holes that you drill into the rear corners of the frame. It does not attach anywhere else to the body but their material is boxed tube where the factory X-frame is flat steel that has been stamped.

The factory X-brace helps in longitudinal flex, not in twisting of the frame from side to side.

But add the factory hard top to the 'vert and the car actually becomes stiffer than a coupe.

I never noticed any cowl flex with my 92 vert. It was a solid car that never had any squeaks or rattles.
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Originally Posted by Normseven
Can you put the factory brace(s) from a vert on a coupe?
Yes, I was in a class put on by Chris Petris a couple of years ago. He had a 93 coupe up on a lift and showed the "road racer" owner how it could easily be done. It seems like the rear bolt holes are already there and he said to bolt those in and then use a punch to make holes for the fronts and then use self tapping bolt/screws to cinch them down. My memory is bad though so it might be the front that already has the holes. You can get a used brace from www.vette2vette.com or cruise the swap area at Carlisle or Bloomington gold to find one from a donor vert. One of our supporting vendors also makes new ones.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Yeah mine seems pretty stiff with the top up or down I always wonder why some people post that they have alot of shake and twist.... seems like you hear most of it from people with coupes with the targa out...
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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My '89 vert is very solid. I had an '89 coupe that was a different story.
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93Cruiser, I dont really have any pics of the Camber brace, its kind of buried down there and you couldnt see much anyhow. Its a standard R&D piece. Here are pics of the rear crossbar and the boxed X brace though.
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When I put the hardtop on this fall I noticed that it was a little stiffer. No body roll at all. Will probably put the brace on in the spring.
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When I put the hardtop on this fall I noticed that it was a little stiffer. .
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Originally Posted by Fast Cop
96 vert, its the X-brace that adds stiffness. The x-brace makes up for what the vert is missing above. Mine rides stiff and has very little body flex.
Same with my 92 vert
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Originally Posted by Fastmax32168
93Cruiser, I dont really have any pics of the Camber brace, its kind of buried down there and you couldnt see much anyhow. Its a standard R&D piece. Here are pics of the rear crossbar and the boxed X brace though.
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Thanks for the pics. How is the rear cross bar attached? I would like to fab one myself. Did you fab yours or did you but it?
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When I frist took the targa top of my 95 coupe it shook so bad I almost stoped the car, On my 96 vert the shake is bearly noticeable.
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