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Old May 24, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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I have an 84 and from time to time the engine will just die. It has happened when I came to a stop the other day and today when I slowed down to make a turn. The dealership did not find any codes in the computer and I am puzzled. I have read other threads about the Lock Out Seloniod and wanted to know if anyone was able to perminently fix the issue if they had it? Like I said it is an 84 and the engine was rebuilt 10,000 miles ago and the transmission has 5000 miles on it. If it was a grounding issue what would I look for? Thanks for the help!
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Old May 24, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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i do sometime have the same problem with my 84
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Old May 24, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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My 84 isn't a daily driver, but it does bother me when I am driving and it happens. How do you deal with it?
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Old May 24, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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I'd be checking the coil/dist cap... replacing the coil has solved similar problems before.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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On the Ford Enthusiasts Forum a guy had the same problem. It was his torque convertor lock up. It would lock up and kill the engine.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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i don't think thats my problem, i have a new torque converter in it
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Old May 25, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Ok, how bout this one, IAC?
When it dies is it a quick death or a slower one.
Quick electrical, slower is fuel.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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One easy thing to do is to take the ignition control module out of the distrubitor (bananna shaped). Take it to Autozone and have them test it for free. The ICM usually fails when the engine has gotten to operating temps.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Was it a stock rebuild? I.E. stock cam, heads, etc. If not, then you probably have a tuning issue. The 1984 crossfires (well actually all CFs) are well known for there loading up problems which means they go rich when coming to a stop and it kills the motor. This can be compounded when you put a different cam in, or make other changes away from stock
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ZfidyONE-84
i don't think thats my problem, i have a new torque converter in it
Do not overlook a possible lock up problem because the converter is new. A solenoid or pressure switch failure is responsible for lock up problems 99% of the time.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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I had this same problem on my 96. It would die as i came to a stop at a traffic light and either not start or have trouble starting. Turned out to be a computer failure and had to be replaced! It only happened when the engine was at opperating temp. when it cooled down it would start right up with no hesitation. The computer going bad isnt very common but just thought i would throw my expeirence out there. Good luck!
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Old May 28, 2007 | 03:20 AM
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Well we replaced the distributor cap, coil and module that is under the cap today. I am crossing my fingers this takes care of the problem!
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Old May 28, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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hmmmmm...just for giggles, do you have a fuel pump cut off switch? If so, I would suspect that. They are inertia controlled in case of crashes and rollovers. If is out of whack, it would explain the deceleration and cornering cut-off.
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I am having a similar issue with a 85 Chevy 5.0 l pu. It was running fine and then it just up and died while running.
The cap and rotor were in need of replacement and the coil tested out to be marginal, so all 3 pieces were replaced. The ignition module was also checked at Advance Auto and was good. Unfortunately still cannot get any fire in the cap.
The cap contacts and rotor have no marks of any spark being created.
The distributor is turning when the engine is cranking.
There is voltage coming into the distributor when the engine is cranking and when the key is in the run position.
The pickup coil has been visually inspected and there are no missing teeth and it is well within specs using a ohm meter.
Even went as far as doing a substitution test with the ignition module, installed a new, tested part. But still cannot get any spark.

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Old May 28, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RRT vette
One easy thing to do is to take the ignition control module out of the distrubitor (bananna shaped). Take it to Autozone and have them test it for free. The ICM usually fails when the engine has gotten to operating temps.


they die with no notice
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Old May 28, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by afdesa
I have an 84 and from time to time the engine will just die. It has happened when I came to a stop the other day and today when I slowed down to make a turn. The dealership did not find any codes in the computer and I am puzzled. I have read other threads about the Lock Out Seloniod and wanted to know if anyone was able to perminently fix the issue if they had it? Like I said it is an 84 and the engine was rebuilt 10,000 miles ago and the transmission has 5000 miles on it. If it was a grounding issue what would I look for? Thanks for the help!
Had this happen now and then in my '88 IROC - it was a loose conection to the battery.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Does everything else work?
On my 85 pu, everything else works. Lights, windows, locks, radio, wipers... JUST not fire inthe distributor.
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Okay well my first atempt didn't work and the engine died again. The dealership replaced the Ignition control module and so far the problem has gone away. I reply back if the issue happens again!
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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Finally the problem is solved! I bought the car with the Dakota aftermarket display dash. I just had it replaced with the orginal one. Apparently when ever the Dakota was installed the installer hot wired the Dakota by cutting the wires. I also replaced the ECM while I was having the cluster replaced. So far the car hasn't died! Most happy especially with the original look of the instruments!
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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I think your ECM

Well, at laest intermittantly. Been seeing that allot lately.
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