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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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Is it possible to rig that up? Have it set with a switch, so you put the key in the ignition and turn it to on... then press a button to start? How would it be done? I know that it is not needed, or helpful... but it would be
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Is it possible to rig that up? Have it set with a switch, so you put the key in the ignition and turn it to on... then press a button to start? How would it be done? I know that it is not needed, or helpful... but it would be
Why can't you just get the remote start kit?

They sell them for lazy people to start their car in the winter time so their car is warm when they get out there.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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If i had the remote start I would be paranoid that id start my car as im walkin away one day. I have driven a bimmer and a infiniti with the start button and i loved the look and technology of it. The big red button screaming push me. I can only imagine what the vette would be like startin up. I am sure its possible, there might be a kit out there, made like universal.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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If i had the remote start I would be paranoid that id start my car as im walkin away one day. I have driven a bimmer and a infiniti with the start button and i loved the look and technology of it. The big red button screaming push me. I can only imagine what the vette would be like startin up. I am sure its possible, there might be a kit out there, made like universal.
Remote Start Alarms are cool, but they are not for Manual Transmission cars and should not be installed in anything other than an Automatic Transmission vehicle. Also, even though the car can be started without actually turning the key, the Powered Accessories will not function until the key is inserted and turned to the ON position.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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I took care of a car with a push button start.

It seemed to fit the character of a 1960 Jaguar XK150 Type S... but a 1984 Vette? Seems rather fiddly.

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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Remote Start Alarms are cool, but they are not for Manual Transmission cars and should not be installed in anything other than an Automatic Transmission vehicle. Also, even though the car can be started without actually turning the key, the Powered Accessories will not function until the key is inserted and turned to the ON position.

1 - you can easily do remote starts in a manual. I don't have the clutch-start switch in my car and never leave it in gear.

2 - thats why you wire it so the entire car comes on


I thought about this many times, but crawling under the dash SUCKS in a C4.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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aye, other than the new cars with the RFID keys (aka: nerdy theifs wet dream) theyre pretty much rice

Cause you will have to insert the key, turn 3 clicks to the on position, then hit the button, lot of work for a "meh" thing that you would stop using in about a week
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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Interesting idea, I think push buttons are pretty much easy in any car, In my DD the ignition stopped working for some strange reason, so I just rigged a button that goes to a wire and shorts the starter motor into life, been like that for 8 months, still have to put the key in and turn it to on.. I would imagine this could be done for any car... although a bit of a bubba approach
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See my reply in this thread:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1782685
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Is it possible to rig that up? Have it set with a switch, so you put the key in the ignition and turn it to on... then press a button to start? How would it be done? I know that it is not needed, or helpful... but it would be
I had a 69 Fiat that worked that way from the factory. A lot of 50-60 european sports cars were set up that way. But to modify a vette? Why waste the time, effort, and money. Plus the possability of confusing the computerized stuff with some patched up thing in the wiring. Instead spend your money on some shiny chrome thingies to dress up under the hood.
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Originally Posted by GIJoe
1 - you can easily do remote starts in a manual. I don't have the clutch-start switch in my car and never leave it in gear.

2 - thats why you wire it so the entire car comes on


I thought about this many times, but crawling under the dash SUCKS in a C4.
I didn't say it could not be done only that it should not be done. I don't think it can be wired to turn on the Powered Accessories, it just won't work that way.
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Originally Posted by 93*Corvette
Why can't you just get the remote start kit?

They sell them for lazy people to start their car in the winter time so their car is warm when they get out there.
That sounds like a good idea
Originally Posted by GIJoe
1 - you can easily do remote starts in a manual. I don't have the clutch-start switch in my car and never leave it in gear.

2 - thats why you wire it so the entire car comes on


I thought about this many times, but crawling under the dash SUCKS in a C4.
, But mine is a auto
I hate going under there
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I've done this on my '88 harness as well as on my '91 harness. There are three wires you will need to switch - Ignition1, Ignition3 and ACC. Then there is a starter wire.

If you are interested in only a push button start while retaining the ignition key for all other functions run a 14 gauge wire from the battery distribution block behind the battery to the location of your push start switch then cut the yellow 14 gauge wire to the blue connector at the ignition switch at the base of the steering column and run it to your push button switch.

If you are looking to eliminate the entire ignition switch: There is a blue and a black connector near the base of the steering column this is the electrical part of the ignition switch. Leading to these blue and black connectors are 6 large gauge wires - an orange, and red to the black connector and a brown, yellow, red and pink to the blue connector.


Decide where you want to place your switches - three toggle switches and a good high quality momentary switch for the push button start witch. Disconnect the battery. Remove the connectors and cut the large gauge wires. Use the same gauge and color wire (to make things easier to diagnose, and keep things looking nice). Get a nice junction post block from a auto parts or marine store. Run the two red wires to the junction block using ring connectors. From the junction block using the same red wire run four wires to wherever you want to put your three toggle and push start switch.

From the orange, pink and brown wires at the ignition switch run similar color and gauge wire all the way to the toggle switches. Connect each to one side of the toggle switch (each switch should be a minimum of 25 amps, 50amp is better) and run three of the four red wires to the other side of the switched.

Now run the remaining red wire to the momentary switch, and the yellow wire from the column to the other side of the momentary switch. Bosch makes some nice black momentary switches that can be used as the start button. If you want to use a nice factory start button I think you will need to run a relay, as I don't think the switch itself is made to handle current directly to the starter.

The three toggle switches are IGN 1, IGN 2 and IGN 3. IGN1 (pink wire) powers the distributor, gauges/turn signal, cruise, cluster, inj1 and 2 CCM, and air bag. IGN 2 Brown wire (accessory) powers wiper fuse, and a few other things. Orange (IGN 3) Powers A/C fuse, P/W fuse and other accessories.

If you are doing this you will probably want to remove the column lock plate in the column and cut the teeth off the plate then reinstall it. That way you can remove the ignition switch all together. I also installed a battery disconnect switch acts as my "ignition" switch but I rarely use this. I also have a hidden fuel pump kill switch, and a switch that controls the ground side of my VATS bypass unit so VATS functions as should if I flick the hidden switch.

That brings up another point - if your car has VATS you will need to bypass it as you will no longer be using the ignition switch.

My car has been set up with the above setup for a few years and everything works as it should. No problems at all.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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My first car, bought in 1965 for $100.00, was a 52 Chevy DeLuxe 2 door sedan, straight 6 with 3 on the tree and, you guessed it, push button start. What goes around comes around.
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Anyone want to guess why they got rid of the push button on old cars in the first place? One more electronic gadget to go wrong when trying to start the car. I wouldnt buy a new car if it had it in there unless I could start it with the key too.
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Anyone want to guess why they got rid of the push button on old cars in the first place? One more electronic gadget to go wrong when trying to start the car. I wouldnt buy a new car if it had it in there unless I could start it with the key too.

so you wouldnt buy an 05+ corvette?
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hm... another advantage to the pushbutton start - if the key ignition is wearing out, this is a viable replacement.
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Originally Posted by 4Ever21
Anyone want to guess why they got rid of the push button on old cars in the first place? One more electronic gadget to go wrong when trying to start the car. I wouldnt buy a new car if it had it in there unless I could start it with the key too.
A momentary switch and three toggle switches is a much simpler system than a mechanical tumbler switch hooked to a sliding contact electrical switch and tied together with a long rod.

Plus, ignition switches in many modern cars are notoriously prone to failure. VW/Audi, Saab, and many other have had many problems with ignition switches (especially the electrical portion) for the last several decades.

but it's not a modification that is meant to replace a faulty system (which the stock unit is not, it works fine for hundreds of thousands of miles and is simple to repair in the event of a failure but one can't argue that push button ignition is any more probe to failure than a modern ignition unit - it has much, much fewer parts) it's just a small, custom touch one can add to their car if they choose to. It's like the thousands and thousands of other modifications people do to their car. It's tasteful to some and of course not to others. Personally I like it and it's a small conversation piece and when done properly with nice hardware can look quite smart.

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