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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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i have a 90 coupe and i changed all the brake pads now on the front i hear a rattle and i noticed there are no bias springs on the pads could this be what is causing the rattle thank you in advance
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That's the first thing to try. There is a reason why most here refer to them as "anti-rattle" clips/springs. Even if they don't fix the problem, they are supposed to be there. If your new pads didn't come with them, scavenge from your old ones.

I did experience a clunky caliper even with the springs, however, and the fix was a new set of rotors. I had a set of slotted/drilled front rotors turned last spring - it solved my vibration once they were reinstalled, but the caliper rattle started for reasons I was never able to figure out.
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Here's a photo to make sure we're talking about the same thing:

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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i will get new rattle clips and if that does not work i will check the rotors although they were working fine with the old pads thank you for the reply
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these are the clips i am talking about thank you
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jrp
Here's a photo to make sure we're talking about the same thing:

when I seen photo like that, I allways wonder WHY did GM egineers not use the hole swepts area of the rotor!
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when I seen photo like that, I allways wonder WHY did GM egineers not use the hole swepts area of the rotor!
Probably because of the diminishing returns w/ respect to torque as it is applied closer to the axle vs. caliper size & weight.

The unswept portion also might be intended to act as a heat sink.
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Probably because of the diminishing returns w/ respect to torque as it is applied closer to the axle vs. caliper size & weight.

The unswept portion also might be intended to act as a heat sink.
The gain of having a larger pad and friction area, should make the pad more effectiv and the bigger pad had has better heat sink properties too.
I have noticed the same on c6 c5 and and z06 vettes, and always wonderd why they dident want to use as big a pad as possible. When you look at brake systems on Ferraris etc the pad is only a few mm from the hub.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Lars87
bigger pad had has better heat sink properties too.
But the pads aren't actively cooled as the rotors are, via the vented discs.

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I have noticed the same on c6 c5 and and z06 vettes, and always wonderd why they dident want to use as big a pad as possible. When you look at brake systems on Ferraris etc the pad is only a few mm from the hub.
Keep in mind that I wasn't pretending to know, but was guessing at what the reasons might be. It would be surprising to find out that GM engineers are unfamiliar with other brake systems, so there must have been some tradeoffs to consider.
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Originally Posted by jrp
But the pads aren't actively cooled as the rotors are, via the vented discs.



Keep in mind that I wasn't pretending to know, but was guessing at what the reasons might be. It would be surprising to find out that GM engineers are unfamiliar with other brake systems, so there must have been some tradeoffs to consider.
thanks for the help to quetions i did not ask
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