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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 11:31 PM
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Hi I am new to this forum, anyway my dad has a 1993 vette black convertible M6(His 8th vette! wish he still had them all!) I am 16 and he doesnt have a computer so i thought i would come on here and ask you all what do you think he would run etc. with-k&n performance kit (NOT cold air, it is a filter and special air box, not sure name of it), Performance Chip, 160 thermo, Skip Shift eliminator, and Flowmaster Exhaust. Where would be a good place to get some blackouts for it. Probably just the parking lights, as i saw someone with a black vette with blackouts and it looks badass who ever has that! He is a very good driver with the stick. If he is not in the 12's now what would it take to get him there?He said he probably doesnt wanna mess with headers :chevy
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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 11:49 PM
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welcome aboard!

Hi I am new to this forum, anyway my dad has a 1993 vette black convertible M6(His 8th vette! wish he still had them all!) I am 16 and he doesnt have a computer so i thought i would come on here and ask you all what do you think he would run etc. with-k&n performance kit (NOT cold air, it is a filter and special air box, not sure name of it), Performance Chip, 160 thermo, Skip Shift eliminator, and Flowmaster Exhaust. Where would be a good place to get some blackouts for it. Probably just the parking lights, as i saw someone with a black vette with blackouts and it looks badass who ever has that! He is a very good driver with the stick. If he is not in the 12's now what would it take to get him there?He said he probably doesnt wanna mess with headers :chevy
all those changes are very good! they will do nothing but help the drivability. and improve throttle responce, but don't expect 2 seconds of the quarter mile!!!

if your going to install a K&N, you should get an open lid, too. this increases the amount of air coming - big time!

the CAGS override kit is the best 10.00 you will spend on a corvette(short of gas) !!! that damned thing has got to go. ick. do it. you won't regret it. besides, 4th gear takes a beating from the skip.

I don't know about flowmasters... I know they are louder, but from what I hear, the exhaust is pretty good already. you may wanna do muffler eliminators. same effect, but simpler... they are pipes that elimate the muffler.

there are tons of chips out there. I cannot say which is best. but you MUST have a chip if you want to take full advantage of the 160* t-stat. the computer controls the fan and without it, the fan will continue to kick in at 235*, not much of an advantage!

you really need a copy of Ecklers and Mid-America Corvette catalogs. check there web sites to order the appropriate catalogs.

good luck - and have fun!!!
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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 11:56 PM
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hey thank you,
a 93 vette ran 14's Stock??? I thought it would be mid thirteens. My dad did get a K&N Holder (airbox i beleive they call it) with the filter. Havent seen it yet but he said it allows a lot more air to get to the filter(dont think it is a K&N extreme lid, It came as one deal the filter and airbox both hell of lot better than stock. My dad knows a hell of a lot about corvettes. We both get the MidAmerica catelog. The performance chip and thermo is Hypertech. Keep answering me everyone! About what et do you think he would have?
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 01:00 AM
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ttt :chevy
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 10:16 AM
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Has he ever ran the car down the quarter mile? It's kind of hard to estimate what he'll need to run 12's without a baseline run to go by. That said, with the setup he has now, it's probably a high 13 second car. I once heard (whether it's true or not, I don't know) that for every 1/10th of a second reduction in the quarter mile, you need another 10 horsepower. From my experiences, it's seems fairly accurate. So, for him to have a consistent 12 second car he'll need to add another 100 horsepower. (this is just a basic example) That is of course if he only wants to add more horsepower. There are however more ways then just adding horsepower to make a car faster. A set of 4.10 gears can make a huge difference in acceleration. Suspension mods can also help alot. Search around a while to get ideas. There are many things you can learn just by setting back and reading posts.
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 10:29 AM
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Also, check out the "Engine Mods" and "Corvette racing" sections here for some ideas.
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 11:35 AM
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if you look on the performance registry section of the forum you will be sure to find some cars with a similar setup to your dads. My 93 A4 ran a 14.01 stock @ 100.79 I also have the dreaded 2.59 gears. With the addition of a SLP coldair intake and the stupid airfoil I was able to run a 13.727 @ 97.69 biggest difference was my 60' dropped from a 2.098 to a 1.929. ( sorry if I'm a little off the slips are in the car now and my brother is driving it so i'm going from memory) BOGUS is right (mostly) the things your dad is doing will improve drivability but the K&N and the 160` stat will help horsepower because the hotter the car is the more horsepower you loose and the K&N and lid will help a little as well. I am assuming he has the stock gears in there and most stock M6 93 vettes are in the 13.7-13.9 range. tell him to change to the 3.54 gears (4.10's are too high for most driving situations IMHO)and a set of DR's and he'll be pretty close 13.2-13.3. Add a good exaust I.E. power effects, borla, SLP 3"(best deal of the three) and he should be in there or real damn close. best of luck to ya' :seeya


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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 11:51 AM
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tell him to change to the 3.54 gears (4.10's are too high for most driving situations IMHO)[Modified by Aquaman93, 9:37 AM 11/28/2001]
First off, welcome to the forum.

now, the car is a 6speed so it already has the 3.45 rear end. Given your dad is a good racer, he shoudl be in the 13.7 range stock and with the mods listed should be around 13.5@102

Best bang for the buck is going to be gears. 4.10 are excellent gears for 6speeds and will be able ot shave off 2 or 3 tenths. That coupled with Drag Radials should put him VERY close to 12s.

Another innexpensive mod is the LT4 hotcam. You will need to purchase the whole kit though since you need to replace the rockers, and springs as well. This cam with 4.10s will put you in the 12s provided your tires are grippy enough.

Feel free to IM me or anyone else around here if you need more technical stuff.
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If he got a set of gears what should he get and how much are they? Would it cut in on mpg. We took a trip to the Vette museum and we averaged 27 mpg. 4.10 or 3.54? What is diffrence etc. :chevy
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If he got a set of gears what should he get and how much are they? Would it cut in on mpg. We took a trip to the Vette museum and we averaged 27 mpg. 4.10 or 3.54? What is diffrence etc. :chevy
ick. don't go with the 4.10's... you will regret that on the highway. expect mileage to drop big time... 3.54 is not a huge change from the factory 3.45's, so perhaps 1 or 2 mpg...
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What will the 3.54's do for accelleration, top speed never reached just wondering, how much are they etc. etc. :chevy
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 01:00 PM
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ick. don't go with the 4.10's... you will regret that on the highway. expect mileage to drop big time... 3.54 is not a huge change from the factory 3.45's, so perhaps 1 or 2 mpg...
:confused: With 4.10 A 6 speed would be @ 2000 rpm at 70mph in 6th, which is about where 3.07/auto is. I would think you might lose a mpg or 2, if it is more than you can't resist yourself from how much fun it is in hte lower gears. The only bad thing that I can see is 1st gear might have traction problems.
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 01:27 PM
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I happen to disagree with all the talk about the 4.10's being a problem on the highway and with gas mileage, my 93 has 4.10 gears, corsa exhaust, hooker long tubes, a chip, and is also a 6spd, it runs at about 1850 rpm's at 70 on the highway. In a way I like it more now because it does not lugg around 1400 when going that speed. As for the 1/4 times for the car, I haven't been to the track with this set-up, but I can say that it is dramatically quicker than it was when stock.

I also run 315 michelin pilot sx's on the rear and I can tell you that these tires are much better off the line that my old gsc's.. where the gsc's spun a lot, the pilots spin some and then grab hard for a street tire( not as good as a drag radial, but good none the less), this winter she is going in for the hot cam and some other goodies, and next year I plan on getting into drag racing regularly, and I am hoping that it will be a high 12 sec car up near 110 or so.

IMHO, go for the gears first-- it is the best bang for the buck, then after the mod bug gets you go to an exhaust and then engine work...

and welcome to the forum :D
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 01:32 AM
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Consider just leaving the 93 Corvette stock and enjoying it. They are really fast as they are.

However a old racer told me (this guy won at both oval and drags which is rare) "the first thing to do is gears".
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