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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 05:07 AM
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Thought I would share this wih you. My mechanic friend called round last evening and we got chatting about our cars. I mentioned I was messing around with my C4 and was reluctant to drive it yet as I thought it had a leaking head gasket. My reasoning being that there are sir bubbles circulating in the cooling system. He explained that air bubbles were caused by the air being pushed around by the water pump. Previous experience with very expensive blown gaskts on a Merc made me sceptical however.

To prove his point we took off for a drive only to get caught behind a traffic accident. We were stuck there in 110 degreee heat for 30 mins.
and I was getting really concerned.

Geuss what? No overheating!

I was all ready to have the heads off and gaskets replaced.

For your info my mechanic friend served 10 years with BMW so does have experience.

Any thoughts out there?
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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what are you asking exactly?
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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so you are saying you thought you had blown headgaskets? and it turns out you just trapped some air in your cooling system? yes its possible... that the answer you wanted?
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Blown headgasket would very likely cause overheating and possibly water in oil pan.
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jhammons01
what are you asking exactly?
I am not asking a question. This was for information so that other's may avoid having to be concerned about bubbles in their system.

Sure, if there is overheating there is a problem but I was under the impression that bubbles were caused by leaking gaskets even without
overheating.

We are not all ace mechanics.
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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How could a water pump introduce air into the system? If there were air trapped, it might bubble it out, but once it was out, that should be the end of it.

Are you seeing bubbles chug out into the surge tank or something? Or just that there's some bubbles floating on the top of the coolant in it?
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Aurora40
How could a water pump introduce air into the system? If there were air trapped, it might bubble it out, but once it was out, that should be the end of it.

Are you seeing bubbles chug out into the surge tank or something? Or just that there's some bubbles floating on the top of the coolant in it?
I'm not saying the pump is introducing air or that the air is trapped but I can see the bubbles circulating through the system when I take the radiator tank off. I ran the car for a good 10 minutes or so until he thermostat opened to be sure there was no trapped air.

Mechanics explanation was that there is air in the system (at the top such as in hoses etc) which is being circulated with the water. The bubbles are very small which made me think it was possibly gas getting past the gasket into the water system.

I was surprised, and relieved by it all. I took the car for a 2 hour drive fast and then through heavy traffic. No overheating and still the bubbles.

I just thought I'd pass it on because everyone I've mentioned this to, except my mechanic, says the cause is a leaking head gasket but it is not.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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You'd have a white gunky residue in the oil too if it was head gasket. If you squeeze the coolant hoses after a coolant change it helps get the air bubbles out of the system
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It still could be, just a slight leak in the early stages. My trans am did this for 6-7 months before it finally popped at 135mph. What a smoke show!

Mine wasn't the normal headgasket failure though, the area it busted caused coolant to go all over the ground and all over the engine bay, didn't get any in the combustion chamber and none in the oil. Been sitting in the yard for about a year now, its my parts donor for my vette now.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 02:08 AM
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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did you finally found your vette ?
He found it shortly after it was stolen.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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You need to burp your cooling system!
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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I had a chevelle that had a bad head gasket. The gasket was blown from the compression chamber to a head bolt that went into the water jacket. It ran hot for months and never got anti freeze in the oil, and didn't apperar to be burning antifreeze.

Exhaust gases were entering the coolant system causing it to run hot.
It never boiled over but ran very near the edge all the that time. Pulled the head replaced gasket, put permatex on the bolts and all was good.
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Originally Posted by Eakster
You'd have a white gunky residue in the oil too if it was head gasket.
not with dex cool, it makes the oil look very dark.
trace amounts will mix in and will not be noticeable until it eats your bearings.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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And just how do you "burp" the radiatior
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pat it on the rear bumper gently
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Bleeder valves.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by coupeguy2001
pat it on the rear bumper gently

Was going to tell him to pat it on the dash for a bit.
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