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Old Jan 4, 2002 | 11:20 PM
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I had bought a skip-shift plug for my Vette before from an online retailer here for $14, and I had seen pre-packaged connection plugs for $35 in a local auto store.

So when I saw one of these connectors advertised on E-Bay for $7 I bid on it for my Viper R/T, and won the bid for $15.50. :)

Here was the listing ad:

Cars equipped with the T-56 transmission (including the 1993-up Corvette, Camaro Z28 / SS, Firebird Trans Am, and Dodge Viper RT/10 or GTS) are equipped with the CAGS (Computer Aided Gear Selector) causing the cars to shift from 1st gear to 4th gear when at low RPM. This simple plug in device allows you to eliminate that annoying first-to-fourth shift in those vehicles. NO CUTTING OR SPLICING IS REQUIRED, AND IT CAN BE EASILY REMOVED AT ANY TIME. installation is simple and instructions are included. These are BRAND NEW and retail for upwards of $30. Shipping is $4.00 via priority mail in the US, shipping to Canada may be slightly higher. Money orders ship immediately, personal checks allow 7 days When the CAGS solenoid is connected, the ECM sees the effective resistance of the coil in the relay. When the connector is unplugged, the ECM will see an open circuit or infinite resistance, and sets a trouble code to warn of CAGS solenoid failure. This item will prevent that from occurring. Now the ECM will see the same coil resistance as it did when the wiring harness was connected to the CAGS solenoid. No codes will be set, and the CAGS lockout solenoid will cease to function. You will no longer be prevented from shifting into 2nd gear during conservative driving. Note: This device will not prevent the Skip Shift light from illuminating on the console/dashboard. After installation the light can be ignored. This device will not work for cars with automatic transmission.Thanks! Please email me at thatsbigmister@aol.com. Thank you and please check out my other auctions.

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Today I got an envelope with a 2-paged xeroxed ls1.com article and a loose resistor enclosed. :confused:

This was not the waterproof bypass plug connector that every auto store sells for CAGS defeat, but a $0.50 resistor. :mad

I see other posts listed by someone with another name, but they're now admitting that it's just a resistor (bidding starting at $5).

I know $20 is not a bag of money to lose, but I wanted to warn prospective buyers to watch out for this scam.

-Dean.
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Old Jan 4, 2002 | 11:46 PM
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Default Re: E-Bay CAGS Scam (Dean McManis)

Bummer.

Cars equipped with the T-56 transmission (including the 1993-up Corvette
T56 transmissions were not installed in any '93-up Corvette. Nor from '89-92 for that matter. The 6-speed in the Corvette is the ZF6. Different animal altogether.
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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 12:46 AM
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If it's any help: :D

A while back there was a guy selling an invisible tie tacks mail order (told you it was a while back) for about $9. He sold hundreds of them.

Someone finally took him to court because his invisible tie tack turned out to be two paper clips and a sheet of paper telling you how to use them.

The guy suing him lost since:
A: The paper clips held the tie in place
B: You couldn't see them

:eek:
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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 12:48 AM
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Default Re: E-Bay CAGS Scam (Scoob)

How about just using electrical tape. My car had it disabled already when I bought it. I'm pretty sure that it's just unplugged, nothing more. The ends are probably wrapped in tape. I'll have to go take a look one day.
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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 01:35 AM
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Does the 1 - 4 light still come on?
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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 03:47 AM
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It does on mine. It was already done. I have never driven it with the CAGS connected. Is it really that much of a pain?????
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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 05:00 AM
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:eek: :eek: that's horrible.... we should gang up on them :mad :mad
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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 05:01 AM
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Default Re: E-Bay CAGS Scam (BrentDev)

On my Vette the CAGS was a plug-in unit. It works great for shifting, but the upshift light still comes on.

-Dean.
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Default Re: E-Bay CAGS Scam (Dean McManis)

Well that sucks man, but it will work. That's how I've disabled 3 C.A.G.S. systems. The thing is you can buy a 5 pack of resistors at radio shack for $0.52 and you can buy tape for $1.

He didn't exactly lie about his product, he just didn't tell you everything there is to know about it. The only line that is actually questionable is this one

These are BRAND NEW and retail for upwards of $30.
Not true, THESE retail for $0.09, other products that do the same thing retail for $30.
Just be sure and leave him some serious negative feedback.
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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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Oh man, another rip off artist...it never ends.People will scman anyone these days for the almighty dollar.Sorry to hear you got burned..not the money but the principle.

I made it a rule a while ago...I NEVER by on
ebay or places like that.I have bought off this forum from respected members with no problems though.Thats as far as ill go.
I know you can usually save some money buying off ebay but too many scam artisist
and thieves seem to be popping up all over.
Suxs eh?
:(

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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 07:49 PM
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Be sure to give him bad feedback and I would report his "devious" sale to E-Bay.
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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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Default Re: E-Bay CAGS Scam (OURRUBY)

Yep, I definitely left negative feedback for him on E-Bay. Hopefully future buyers will check his feedback and be forewarned.

-Dean.
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