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Old Feb 10, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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I've posted this before in several of the muffler eliminator threads and haven't really got a good response from anybody. So I thought I would just post it here and see what everybody thinks. I don't mean to flame anybody, just read and hear me out.

"Muffler Eliminators" WTF is up with that? I had NEVER heard straight pipes refered to as something so ridiculous before I came around the Corvette crowd. Straight pipes, removing mufflers, etc. A million other names that don't sound as cheesey as "Muffler Eliminators" Maybe it's just me, but my Muffler Eliminator is a freaking Sawzall, the pipes are what you would put back in place of the mufflers. To me it just sounds crazy to refer to something as simple as the classic "straight pipes" as "muffler eliminators" Are straight pipes just not classy enough to belong on a Corvette? What about side pipes? Why not call these "Rear Exhaust Eliminators"

What are you guy's thoughts on this? Honestly I'm not trying to bash anybody, but I would like to find the person who thought something so simple needed such a foolish sounding name.

Ok that little rant aside, let me ask another question. Cutout? Why does NOBODY with a Corvette just simply install dual cutouts? People ask all the time about "Muffler Eliminators" but some are turned off at the thought of the extra resonance. Simple solution, install some cutouts, then you can open the exhaust up when you want to, but can cap it up for a 100% stock sound if you so desire. You can even get electric cut outs so they can controlled from inside the car. Perhaps this would be more of an option if we came up with a silly name for it, how about "Exhaust Diverter Valve"

Think about it guys and honestly let me know what you think? Again I AM NOT trying to flame anybody, I just find it amusing that Corvette owners are the only ones who come up with such silly names and I'm curious as to why.
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Old Feb 10, 2002 | 05:10 PM
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I know where you are coming from, I only use the term since everyone else does.

As far as cutouts, I believe you would fail visual inspection in NJ.
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Old Feb 10, 2002 | 05:11 PM
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MAD and others sell the pre-cut and sweged replacement pipes as a "muffler eliminator kit". Hence the name in question.
Ghetto is in the mind of the beholder.
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Old Feb 10, 2002 | 05:15 PM
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I know where you are coming from, I only use the term since everyone else does.

As far as cutouts, I believe you would fail visual inspection in NJ.
That's what I'm thinking. Somehow everybody got this name in their head, but it's only Corvette owners.

Really, on the cutouts? You can pass with no muffler, but you can't pass with something that lets you bypass the muffler? That's jacked up.
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Old Feb 10, 2002 | 05:21 PM
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I would use the excuse that the center muffler is the only one, I may be able to get away with that, but cutouts are too obvious.
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Old Feb 10, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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No such thing as legal racing up there? As long as it's not in front of your cats I don't see how it could be a problem. Sounds like some people are just being too picky. I'm glad I live in BG where all they do is verfiy your VIN number and Mileage.
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Remember "Ghetto is as Ghetto does" be cool and wait till you here some of the other phrases. You're gonna :U
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Old Feb 10, 2002 | 06:48 PM
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To me, "classic straight pipes" would be a pair of unrestricted exhaust pipes running from the exhaust manifolds/headers to the tips. In the "old days" vehicles had mufflers only. Now, there are pre-cats, cats, resonators and mufflers. A length of exhaust pipe used to replace only the mufflers, while leaving the other items in the exhaust system would not, in my opinion, be true straight pipes. I agree that the term muffler eliminator is cheesey sounding, but it is descriptive of the function it performs.
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in answer to the question, yes, it makes it seem less ghetto :lol:
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Old Feb 10, 2002 | 08:24 PM
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So THAT'S what they are. :rolleyes:
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Old Feb 10, 2002 | 11:22 PM
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maybe the mod should be refered to as "muffler delete".
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maybe the mod should be refered to as "muffler delete".
Or "!muffler" :lol:

Anyway, I didn't realize that George Carlin was a registered member. :jester
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Default Re: Why? Does the name make it less Ghetto? (Nathan Plemons)

You know as I sit here picking my teeth with my "Plaque Eliminator", I have to agree. :lol:
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Default Re: Why? Does the name make it less Ghetto? (Nathan Plemons)

"Muffler Eliminators" WTF is up with that?
I believe its all a matter of economics. "Muffler eliminator" sure sounds like it does more than straight pipe, hence they could charge more for it.

Back in the day when cats first came out they were always clogging up. So in order to check if your problem was related to the cat, you could buy a "catalytic convertor test pipe", which you probably guessed was nothing more than a very expense piece of straight pipe, or is that muffler eliminator :rolleyes:
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Old Feb 11, 2002 | 12:11 AM
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Default Re: Why? Does the name make it less Ghetto? (Nathan Plemons)

I'm with you Nathan. I don't get it either.

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Hmmmm...Muffler eliminators...sounds allright to me,but before I can answer, whats the Ghetto name for this mod?

I need another name to compare it to,since Ive never heard a Ghetto expression of a mod like this.

Also,Should we psycho analyze throttle body by-pass or call it TB elminator?
How about EGR eliminator..whats the Ghetto names for removing EGR?
Whats the fancy name for a Ghetto community anyway if it was filled with Vette owners?

How about gutting the cats?Call it cat eliminators?
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Seriously,the name muffler eliminators to me have always sounded just that, a exhaust pipe/piece that takes place of the muffler..has no economic or social status to me.
yet I still wanna know the Ghetto name though to comapre it to...anyone know?
LOL...
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Old Feb 11, 2002 | 02:57 AM
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When I bought the kit from MAD, it said "Muffler Eliminators" on the box.
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Old Feb 11, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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I need another name to compare it to,since Ive never heard a Ghetto expression of a mod like this.
I've always heard straight pipes or simply NO MUFFLERS, didn't sound very Ghetto to me. I just assumed that SOMEBODY thought it was Ghetto and had to come up with a new name for it.

I guess it's all in advertising. You can't sell a "no muffler" kit for $200, but you CAN sell "Muffler Eliminators" for that price. It just proves that people care about a name more than what something really is. Consider the Hardees Six Dollar Burger. Hmm, that's nice. If it tastes anything like their $1.21 Burger I'm gonna :U They just think people are so stupid that the name will sell it. The problem is that they are correct. I work with a guy who was telling me all about he Six Dollar Burger.
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Old Feb 11, 2002 | 01:15 PM
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To me, "classic straight pipes" would be a pair of unrestricted exhaust pipes running from the exhaust manifolds/headers to the tips. In the "old days" vehicles had mufflers only. Now, there are pre-cats, cats, resonators and mufflers. A length of exhaust pipe used to replace only the mufflers, while leaving the other items in the exhaust system would not, in my opinion, be true straight pipes. I agree that the term muffler eliminator is cheesey sounding, but it is descriptive of the function it performs.
exactly! :yesnod:
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 01:51 AM
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As I've said before you can only say you run straight pipes if you do(as I do, no restirctions). No mufflers is just that, muffler eliminators.

Straight pipes=no cats, no resonators, no mufflers

I don't remember where I posted this, but it was somewhere in C4 tech.

I don't know what else to call muffler elims, b/c there isn't really anything else you can call them.

One thing though, people call pipes in place of your cats test pipes. WTF are they testing?
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