3K Two Oil Changes???
Cheaper than buying a new motor....My friends motor spun a bearing from lack of oil changes so I would rather over do mine than under do it.

I changed my oil two weekends ago and have hardly put 30 miles on it since.
Sorry but I am very serious. 3000 miles or 3 months whichever comes first.
Cheaper than buying a new motor....My friends motor spun a bearing from lack of oil changes so I would rather over do mine than under do it.

I changed my oil two weekends ago and have hardly put 30 miles on it since.
Last edited by lt1396corvette; Nov 11, 2009 at 05:03 PM.
Sorry but I am very serious. 3000 miles or 3 months whichever comes first.
Cheaper than buying a new motor....My friends motor spun a bearing from lack of oil changes so I would rather over do mine than under do it.

I changed my oil two weekends ago and have hardly put 30 miles on it since.
If your friend spun a bearing because of infrequent oil changes, he was abusing the tar out of it.
3K or 3mths is a myth started by lube places to drum up business.
I have NEVER seen a manufacture state that in any form and I think they know what is best.
Heck my friends 93 Carrera says every 4k miles and that beast takes 11 quarts.
If your friend spun a bearing because of infrequent oil changes, he was abusing the tar out of it.
3K or 3mths is a myth started by lube places to drum up business.
I have NEVER seen a manufacture state that in any form and I think they know what is best.
Heck my friends 93 Carrera says every 4k miles and that beast takes 11 quarts.
Wow, he must be loaded to afford 11 qts per oil change. I doubt that Carerra sees anything less than the best synthetic oil.










1. I change the oil and filters every spring, when I get my '85 vette and '79 Honda (wife's) out of storage. Drive ~1k miles a year on the '85, 2k on the '79.
2. My father in law has been an avid "change the oil every 3k miles or 3 months, whichever comes first. He's got a Northstar 32v V8 Caddy, a Saturn, and a Hyundai. That all came to an end (finally) this past summer, when the Saturn Dealer blew his engine (34k orig. miles on an '02) after they drained the oil and forgot to refill it. $4.5k bill for a reman. engine, with the dealer eating $3,900.00.
He's come to the conclusion now where he only needs to change it at 3-5k miles, not by the date, unless it goes beyond a year. Also depends on the type of driving.
The Caddy is all Mobil 1 Synth. (done at the dealer also), and I'm sure the intervals are more than 3k/3months. But he just had that figure embedded deep in his brain.
http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm
Unfortunately, there are market forces that have a vested interest in convincing vehicle owners to change their oil more often than necessary. The legal prey of these market forces have become convinced that they are purchasing "cheap insurance" or "peace of mind" by changing their oil more often than necessary. Complicating things is the fact that doing oil changes is one of the few do-it-yourself maintenance tasks that is still within the ability of the backyard mechanic to perform.
Recreational Oil Changing
The term "recreational oil changer" was coined to define people that change their oil far more than necessary because they actually enjoy doing it. It's easy to understand the psychology behind the recreational oil changing. It's the visceral feel of the tools, the victory when that old oil filter breaks free, the hot dirty oil pouring out, the joy of oiling of the gasket on the new filter, that new copper or fiber gasket on the drain plug, the clean clear oil going in, and the sense of accomplishment when you start the car, the oil light comes on for a moment, then goes out. For $8-10 in oil and parts, it's pretty cheap entertainment, but if people would be content to do it only when it provides some benefit to the vehicle it would be better.
The 3000 Mile Myth
The 3000 mile oil change interval has been pounded into people's heads for decades. It had a scientific basis when engines used non-multi-weight, non-detergent oil. It no longer has any scientific basis, but it is still being promoted by certain entities, most notably the oil change industry in the United States. This myth is also sometimes known as the "Cheap Insurance Myth."
The 3000 Mile Fact
There are still vehicles that need 3K oil changes, but it's not because the oil goes bad after 3K miles. One example is the Saturn S series. These vehicles have a timing chain system that is very sensitive to clean oil because oil pressure is used as hydraulic fluid to ratchet up the timing chain tensioner. If varnish forms in the timing chain tensioner bore then this system can fail and the chain will become loose and eventually break. Dealers have gone as far as tearing out the normal service schedule (6000 miles) and leaving only the severe service schedule. If your engine is destroyed (under warranty) by a failed timing chain then the dealer will legitimately request evidence of oil changes. Unfortunately this problem usually won't manifest itself during the warranty period.
1. Don't fall for the 3000 mile myth or the dark oil myth
2. Follow the manufacturer's recommended change interval for severe service or have an oil analysis performed to see if you can use the normal service interval
3. If you do the oil changes yourself then buy the oil and filters near the date of the oil change and keep a maintenance log with receipts
4. Use an API certified 5W30 or 10W30 oil (whatever your manual says is preferred) and watch out for oil change places that force 10W30 on you
5. Don't use oil additives
6. If you really want to know the optimum time to change your oil than have oil analyses performed
7. Use the manufacturer filter or a quality after-market filter (don't go by brand name recognition!)
8. Synthetic oil is a good choice if you have a high performance engine or if you live in an extremely cold climate, otherwise it provides no benefit (but no harm either).
9. Avoid engine flushes
10. Check your oil
Last edited by Wathen1955; Nov 11, 2009 at 05:24 PM.
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If I feel that I have done too much corner work, then I'll do a change just to put my mind at ease. Probably not needed at all. It makes me feel better after watching the oil temp gauge stay up at 270* for a while.
The one thing I'll never do is take my car out and not figure a way to get all of it's stuff up to proper operating temp & keep it there for a while before I shut it off. I think that is as important as good oil change procedures. JMHO.
If I feel that I have done too much corner work, then I'll do a change just to put my mind at ease. Probably not needed at all. It makes me feel better after watching the oil temp gauge stay up at 270* for a while.
The one thing I'll never do is take my car out and not figure a way to get all of it's stuff up to proper operating temp & keep it there for a while before I shut it off. I think that is as important as good oil change procedures. JMHO.

Thats what I have been doing for several years now i.e. changing the oil in the fall before I store it. I use Mobil 1 and I only put 2000 - 3000 miles a year













