Electric C4 video
Drifting
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From: Boise Idaho
Mot my 'cup of tea' however I admire his knowledge and ability. Just wondering why he did not give information about speed and range.
Seems he got most of it right, but he is wrong about one thing...I do not want to be Michael Shoup.
Seems he got most of it right, but he is wrong about one thing...I do not want to be Michael Shoup.
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From: Pennsylvania
[QUOTE=Loby 1;1572860821]Mot my 'cup of tea' however I admire his knowledge and ability. Just wondering why he did not give information about speed and range.
Or if it's a Corvette that is actually NOT to be driven in the rain.
Or if it's a Corvette that is actually NOT to be driven in the rain.
Drifting
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From: El Paso Texas
It's very cool, and his execution and layout are engineered very well. But as always with electrics, we get back to the three hurdles that have to be overcome.
1. Range.
2. Recharge Time
3. Cost and lifespan of batteries.
I have no doubt these will at some point be conquered. When they are, I wonder who will sell the first retrograde kit for the C4?
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I think its a great project, And he did it very cleanly. Innovative and interesting. I agree about driving that rather than a prius..
Melting Slicks
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1)Do they loose HP when they are converted?
2)What about the extra weight of all the computers plus the batteries. Would it be more then what is on the car now?
3) As stated before how long before you have to recharge, and what would the cost and maintenance of the batteries be?
4) How much more "environmentally friendly" is using 5 batteries and the power that is needed to recharge them versus just the gas version along with the computer equipment required to run it?
I have debated this as all batteries have lead in them, therefore environmentally unfriendly, so how can this truly be better for the environment then the fuels we use now?
Laura
2)What about the extra weight of all the computers plus the batteries. Would it be more then what is on the car now?
3) As stated before how long before you have to recharge, and what would the cost and maintenance of the batteries be?
4) How much more "environmentally friendly" is using 5 batteries and the power that is needed to recharge them versus just the gas version along with the computer equipment required to run it?
I have debated this as all batteries have lead in them, therefore environmentally unfriendly, so how can this truly be better for the environment then the fuels we use now?
Laura
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There is a forum member here named MoBandy I believe That has made one. I think his car is much better than this one. The 110 volt charge takes alot longer to charge the the 22o charge. Nice engineering though. He didnt say his range or top speed. I would have thought he would have mentioned this to promote the car. My guess is about 40 miles at about 60 mph.
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From: The Old Dominion
This has been going on for a while, with many updates posted:
http://northstar.sierraclub.org/camp...te/chap01.html
According to that, he runs it such that it can do 70mph and 30 miles of range. Presumably if he dials up more power, the range drops accordingly.
While it's cool, he's hardly shown that anything is viable with that. The front seems to be pretty low from all the weight, it has no real range, and no real power. Just because it still looks like a 'vette and doesn't use gas, so what? Did anyone doubt you could drop an electric drivetrain in a 'vette with huge compromises to the performance?
It is cool he has followed through with something that interests him, but the car itself does nothing for me. If it performed like a Corvette should, then we'd be talking.
Some tidbits I found interesting, he has 14 70-lbs batteries in the car, and the electric motor weighs 240 lbs. Plus however much the various electrical charging/control systems weigh. This would be offset by the loss of engine, trans, gas tank, and radiator. It's got to weigh a fair bit...
http://northstar.sierraclub.org/camp...te/chap01.html
According to that, he runs it such that it can do 70mph and 30 miles of range. Presumably if he dials up more power, the range drops accordingly.
While it's cool, he's hardly shown that anything is viable with that. The front seems to be pretty low from all the weight, it has no real range, and no real power. Just because it still looks like a 'vette and doesn't use gas, so what? Did anyone doubt you could drop an electric drivetrain in a 'vette with huge compromises to the performance?
It is cool he has followed through with something that interests him, but the car itself does nothing for me. If it performed like a Corvette should, then we'd be talking.
Some tidbits I found interesting, he has 14 70-lbs batteries in the car, and the electric motor weighs 240 lbs. Plus however much the various electrical charging/control systems weigh. This would be offset by the loss of engine, trans, gas tank, and radiator. It's got to weigh a fair bit...
Melting Slicks
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From: Salem Oregon
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11
This has been going on for a while, with many updates posted:
http://northstar.sierraclub.org/camp...te/chap01.html
According to that, he runs it such that it can do 70mph and 30 miles of range. Presumably if he dials up more power, the range drops accordingly.
While it's cool, he's hardly shown that anything is viable with that. The front seems to be pretty low from all the weight, it has no real range, and no real power. Just because it still looks like a 'vette and doesn't use gas, so what? Did anyone doubt you could drop an electric drivetrain in a 'vette with huge compromises to the performance?
It is cool he has followed through with something that interests him, but the car itself does nothing for me. If it performed like a Corvette should, then we'd be talking.
Some tidbits I found interesting, he has 14 70-lbs batteries in the car, and the electric motor weighs 240 lbs. Plus however much the various electrical charging/control systems weigh. This would be offset by the loss of engine, trans, gas tank, and radiator. It's got to weigh a fair bit...
http://northstar.sierraclub.org/camp...te/chap01.html
According to that, he runs it such that it can do 70mph and 30 miles of range. Presumably if he dials up more power, the range drops accordingly.
While it's cool, he's hardly shown that anything is viable with that. The front seems to be pretty low from all the weight, it has no real range, and no real power. Just because it still looks like a 'vette and doesn't use gas, so what? Did anyone doubt you could drop an electric drivetrain in a 'vette with huge compromises to the performance?
It is cool he has followed through with something that interests him, but the car itself does nothing for me. If it performed like a Corvette should, then we'd be talking.
Some tidbits I found interesting, he has 14 70-lbs batteries in the car, and the electric motor weighs 240 lbs. Plus however much the various electrical charging/control systems weigh. This would be offset by the loss of engine, trans, gas tank, and radiator. It's got to weigh a fair bit...
No friggin way! I would rather walk. 
As far as the weight, I felt the batteries if the weight were to be distributed unproportionally would also make for a more uncomfortable unstable ride.
As far as being more economically worthy, what about all the acid and lead from the batteries and thier disposal? Even if they are recycled you will still have a significant amount of waste to dispose of IMO.
Laura
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Interesting, but I think he misses the whole point of having a Corvette... If I'd wanted an electric car, I'd have bought an electric car. It may be one of a kind, but it's got no soul if you ask me.
Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11
I kind of agree with that. In my mind, a vette is a source of power to enjoy and take long drives in, and if someone has to stop every 30 miles or so to recharge, what kind of fun is that?
Leave this to the cheap imports to cheese up, and leave American made (
mostly anyway) alone! 
Laura
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His voltage to run the motor is 156 volts. The converter takes a small portion and drops it down to 12 volts to run the accesories. Other factors limiting this is hills or mountain driving etc. His claims for range and top speed are with all the accesories off. I dint see Air cond. on the car. That would KILL the range if you were to use it. He realy needs the lith ions to make it worth a hoot.
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