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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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hey guys need some input plz. my check engine light is came on yesterday. all guages show good the only thing i've done lately was change the oil this past tuesday. oil level good. i read the owners manual and says a steady on light means it's Emissions related but where should i start to look???

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btw, this is on my 96 CE
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Originally Posted by MikeIz 82VETTE
hey guys need some input plz. my check engine light is came on yesterday. all guages show good the only thing i've done lately was change the oil this past tuesday. oil level good. i read the owners manual and says a steady on light means it's Emissions related but where should i start to look???

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btw, this is on my 96 CE
pull and post codes...
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when was the last time you filled up?

But codes would be better than trying to guess.
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when was the last time you filled up?

But codes would be better than trying to guess.
Hey Sarge why did you ask him when the last time he filled up was? You are referring to gas and not the oil change right? Just curious. Always learning new stuff here...
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Thanks for the quick reply guys!!

i filled up about 2 or 3 weeks ago tank shows 3/4 full and i always put the highest octane from shell or exxon.

sorry for the newb question but how to i pull and get the codes?


thanks fellas!!
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Hey Sarge why did you ask him when the last time he filled up was? You are referring to gas and not the oil change right? Just curious. Always learning new stuff here...
Because a lot of times the gas cap will throw a code. It has on my STS, it just did last week on my Son's MC SS. It did on my Durango.

if that thing is not seated correctly, or properly tightened it will do it on the OBDII systems. It will take it a while to come on and then take it a while to go off, when corrected. Of course if a person has a code reader they can tell real quick.
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Originally Posted by MikeIz 82VETTE
Thanks for the quick reply guys!!

i filled up about 2 or 3 weeks ago tank shows 3/4 full and i always put the highest octane from shell or exxon.

sorry for the newb question but how to i pull and get the codes?


thanks fellas!!
There is a way to check for codes by grounding the pins but I have never done it. I have code readers for my cars. You can do a search on how to do it. I looked briefly but nothing jumped out at me.

If you can't find it here, try Google. It's pretty simple.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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You have a 96, so you can use a code reader (OBDII)... If you dont have one, maybe you should invest in one $100 for a decent one $200 for one with a live data scanner and so on... Or you can take it to a local pepboys, atuozone, etc and they will test for free, just bring a pen and paper and dont let them sell you anything yet...

The port is right below the steering wheel and dash, it looks like a trapazoid
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Originally Posted by j-vette
pull and post codes...
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cool. i'll bring it to the local auto zone and get the codes and will get back to you guys.


BIG thanks fellas!


gonna have to invest in the code reader too.
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Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97
Because a lot of times the gas cap will throw a code. It has on my STS, it just did last week on my Son's MC SS. It did on my Durango.

if that thing is not seated correctly, or properly tightened it will do it on the OBDII systems. It will take it a while to come on and then take it a while to go off, when corrected. Of course if a person has a code reader they can tell real quick.
Great info thanks!

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ok, this is what i got:

Code is P1416

definition
air system bank 2 fault

explanation
During the Air system test the ECM looks for a change in the 02 sensor voltage- No change was detected.

Probable causes
Air pump electrical circuit fault
Blocked air system
Failed Air pump

So....where do i start? LOL
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Here is a thread i found. I found it by typing Code P1416 in the serch engine and selecting the C4 section

I know nothing about this, as I have never ahd a deal like this, but here is a starting point for you.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...ease-help.html

it is an emission thing though. It won't kill your car at least.

And another, it's an easy fix. Check valve

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85708

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Thanks! i'll check it out.
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looked for a line disconnected or kinked but no luck. somebody suggest it may be the O2 sensor that needs to be replaced but how would i know for sure? also where exactly is the air pump?
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The air pump is in front by the horn on the drivers side.It runs for the first minute at start up

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Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97
And another, it's an easy fix. Check valve

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85708
Check the C5 tech section (I know, I know... )
Had the same thing happen (twice) on my 96, I disconnected the rubber hose leading to the check valve, sprayed a bunch of throttle body cleaner in it, and blew it through the check valve. TB cleaner shouldn't damage O2 sensor.
Good luck.
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I went through this last month. It was the O2 sensor. Bank 2 = the right side. The code will also tell you what sensor it is (before the cat or after the cat.)

Its a cheap fix $35.00 and about 20 minutes. Make sure it is the O2 sensor you need before making the purchase.

Think about purchasing a code reader....I got one at Harbor Freight for $39.95.

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Originally Posted by runner140*
I went through this last month. It was the O2 sensor. Bank 2 = the right side. The code will also tell you what sensor it is (before the cat or after the cat.)

Its a cheap fix $35.00 and about 20 minutes. Make sure it is the O2 sensor you need before making the purchase.

Think about purchasing a code reader....I got one at Harbor Freight for $39.95.
hi Runner, where are the sensors located? was thinking if i could blow them out with some tb cleaner in meantime and see it thats the problem? pic would good too! thanks
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