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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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I will replace the door weather strips on my 86 coupe. Would like to know what all is involved in the replacement. Step by step instructions would be great. I tried several searches on the subject but no help.

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I will replace the door weather strips on my 86 coupe. Would like to know what all is involved in the replacement. Step by step instructions would be great. I tried several searches on the subject but no help.

Thanks in advance...
I tried a search on here to no avail, then I tried to google it, and not enough specifics other then the rear hatch installation.

After I did all that, I looked in my FSM (I should of done that in the first place) and it has complete how to instructions. Do you have these manuals for your specific car year? If so, just look up weatherstripping install, and it gives you step by step instructions.

If you do not have these, they are available from many sources, but I bought mine on EBay when I first purchased the car and they have been invaluable for instructions and trouble shooting.

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I tried a search on here to no avail, then I tried to google it, and not enough specifics other then the rear hatch installation.

After I did all that, I looked in my FSM (I should of done that in the first place) and it has complete how to instructions. Do you have these manuals for your specific car year? If so, just look up weatherstripping install, and it gives you step by step instructions.

If you do not have these, they are available from many sources, but I bought mine on EBay when I first purchased the car and they have been invaluable for instructions and trouble shooting.

Laura
I do have access to a FSM for my car.

Thanks again...
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I do have access to a FSM for my car.

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Have you actually purchased the weatherstripping for your car yet?

I need to do mine as well, and I was just checking and for my year, Wilcox has a deal for forum members for the complete set for $388.00.

It includes all that I need to do mine. I just wrote them an email asking if I needed to be a paying member or not to get this deal, but that is a good buy, and their products are excellent.

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Have you actually purchased the weatherstripping for your car yet?

I need to do mine as well, and I was just checking and for my year, Wilcox has a deal for forum members for the complete set for $388.00.

It includes all that I need to do mine. I just wrote them an email asking if I needed to be a paying member or not to get this deal, but that is a good buy, and their products are excellent.

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No I have not bought them yet. I was going to check with GM and if they can't get them then Wilcox....
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Originally Posted by ThomasRetUSN
No I have not bought them yet. I was going to check with GM and if they can't get them then Wilcox....
I believe that Wilcox carries the GM product.

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I bought mine from Willcox and I installed it myself. I was worried and nervous to do it like you are now but honestly I was worried for no reason. Just clean the retainers that they go in with bug/tar/adhesive remover, make sure it looks like new. reinstalled the retainers and just install the new weather stripping back in the retainers. You can even use a ice cream popstick to help you push the rubber in the retainer. I did not use any glue because the weather stripping fit very snug on the retainer. The hardest part was the rear hatch rubber because you have to remove the rods that hold the glass which is kinda simple once you do it. Just pop the clips out and pull out the rod then do same with the other one. Have a friend hold the glass up while you put the rubber back then put the rods back. That is it I was done. Don't pay no one to do it. It is easy. Here are some after pics.



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I bought mine from Willcox and I installed it myself. I was worried and nervous to do it like you are now but honestly I was worried for no reason. Just clean the retainers that they go in with bug/tar/adhesive remover, make sure it looks like new. reinstalled the retainers and just install the new weather stripping back in the retainers. You can even use a ice cream popstick to help you push the rubber in the retainer. I did not use any glue because the weather stripping fit very snug on the retainer. The hardest part was the rear hatch rubber because you have to remove the rods that hold the glass which is kinda simple once you do it. Just pop the clips out and pull out the rod then do same with the other one. Have a friend hold the glass up while you put the rubber back then put the rods back. That is it I was done. Don't pay no one to do it. It is easy. Here are some after pics.



I hope you cleaned the back of the retainers and put some kind of sealant on the backside before you reinstalled the retainers.
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If you are going to do the one around the back window. Be careful of the glue they put on it. Its like paste with sand in it, don't get on the car.
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
I hope you cleaned the back of the retainers and put some kind of sealant on the backside before you reinstalled the retainers.
I cleaned it very well but I did not put any sealant on the back of it. Do you really think it is necessary. There was no sealant on the back side when i removed the old retainers.
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Originally Posted by uptown193
I cleaned it very well but I did not put any sealant on the back of it. Do you really think it is necessary. There was no sealant on the back side when i removed the old retainers.
Yes, it is needed. Was there foam tape on the back? That is what came on them from the factory. When you buy new retainers, they come with the foam tape on them. But if you reuse the old retainers, you have to clean up the old foam tape. And put a sealant on the backside. I believe in a Corvette Fever article, they put strip caulk on the back of the retainers when they did the weatherstripping on a C3. I've also heard of people using 3M molding tape that you can get from Autozone. I think 7/8" wide.

Heres another Corvette Fever article I found. They used Armacell insulating wrap from Home Depot cut to fit:



"22: GM used closed-cell foam to seal the weatherstrip retainers to the convertible-top frame which we found difficult to source. Home Depot has a roll of a very similar product called Armacell insulating wrap. This product allows you to cut it to fit, and it provides the same type seal with an adhesive backing as the original product."

http://www.corvettefever.com/techart.../photo_23.html

You will probably have water leaks with no sealant on the back of the retainers. Go out and use the shower setting on your water hose. And run it up and down the A pillar for a while on both side. Look inbetween the A pillar trim and weatherstripping to see if you see water leaking in past the retainer.
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
Heres another Corvette Fever article I found. They used Armacell insulating wrap from Home Depot cut to fit:



"22: GM used closed-cell foam to seal the weatherstrip retainers to the convertible-top frame which we found difficult to source. Home Depot has a roll of a very similar product called Armacell insulating wrap. This product allows you to cut it to fit, and it provides the same type seal with an adhesive backing as the original product."

http://www.corvettefever.com/techart.../photo_23.html
Thanks, this is probably going to be my next project, and this really helps.
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
Yes, it is needed. Was there foam tape on the back? That is what came on them from the factory. When you buy new retainers, they come with the foam tape on them. But if you reuse the old retainers, you have to clean up the old foam tape. And put a sealant on the backside. I believe in a Corvette Fever article, they put strip caulk on the back of the retainers when they did the weatherstripping on a C3. I've also heard of people using 3M molding tape that you can get from Autozone. I think 7/8" wide.
Great now i have to take it off and to the sealant tape thing. I am not doing it for the rear hatch, it had not tape or sealant.
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Great now i have to take it off and to the sealant tape thing. I am not doing it for the rear hatch, it had not tape or sealant.
You might could just try soaking it with a water hose for a while to see if it leaks first. I'm betting it will. As alot of people have found out afterwards when they get their weatherstripping replaced that they still get water leaking in. Whether because they bent the retainers, or because they didn't properly clean up and reseal the backside of the retainers.

I'd also spray water on the backside just to make sure water doesn't get past the retainers on the hatch side.

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I replaced my weatherstriping last October and it was pretty easy. It's a do-it-yourself job.

Here's some links for help from other posts:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...ping-help.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...ions-help.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...tall-help.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...tion-help.html
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Thanks, this is probably going to be my next project, and this really helps.
You can still get those windshield retainers new with the foam tape already on them. They are $42 a piece from Corvette Central. That is something to keep in mind if the retainers get bent, or if they already are bent from say a prior windshield install.

Plus for those who have someone else do it, you would save money on labor for the other guy to clean the retainers.
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
You might could just try soaking it with a water hose for a while to see if it leaks first. I'm betting it will. As alot of people have found out afterwards when they get their weatherstripping replaced that they still get water leaking in. Whether because they bent the retainers, or because they didn't properly clean up and reseal the backside of the retainers.

I'd also spray water on the backside just to make sure water doesn't get past the retainers on the hatch side.
That is pretty sad if it leaks from behind the retainers. When i removed my retainers there was no rubber stripping behind the retainers only underneath the weather stripping and which is on top of the retainers nothing behind. If the case is that u need a rubber or foam stripping behind the retainers then what is the purpose of the weather stripping. Once you have weather stripping that should be good enough. Also, no one else mentioned this prior to my application and again there was none behind my retainers initially. I don't thinks you 100% correct but I will closely monitor it.
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I replaced my weatherstriping last October and it was pretty easy. It's a do-it-yourself job.

Here's some links for help from other posts:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...ping-help.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...ions-help.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...tall-help.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...tion-help.html
On one of those links, I see there is a guy saying not to use any glue on the weatherstripping. Don't you need to at least glue the ends of the windshield weatherstripping? I know mine weren't really glued at the ends. And water leaked in past there. So, I got some RTV and glued along the top of the ends of the weatherstripping making sure not to get glue over the drain hole that is at the end.
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OK, now let's ask the important question...

OEM seal kits cost $1100-1200, but places like Willcox has a set for $385 (for my 1991). I know GM OEM parts are notoriously high, but c'mon now, there just has to be a significant difference in quality, right?

I have seen some of the threads that say not to waste your time with anything but OEM seals, but if I can get reasonably close to OEM quality and performance, why not?
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