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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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I own a 1995 corvette with 53k miles ,It has been a great car with little to no problems . This car is in nice conditions and gets driven less then 1500 miles a year . Recently i decided to sell it and look for and older one to restore .
I had someone who was really interested and even took the car to a well known corvette repair shop where it was given a clean bill of health . However they ran a CARFAX on it and it came back as a Manufacture Buy Back (A.K.A. Lemon Law Car) .
No further information as to why the car was deemed a Lemon is given
I have gone over this car top to bottom and find zero indication of neglect the engine and interior are spotless with minor wear .
I own a autoglass business so I am no stranger to automobiles .
My question is how can i find out what was wrong with this car that got it this CARFAX red flag ? It has killed the resale on this otherwise nice car .
Please can anyone help ? You can contact me at www.theglassgod@gmail.com as I dont always find myway back to this sight to easily .
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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Once listed/reported it can NEVER be removed. And you must disclose the info to the new owner now that you are aware of it.

How you check the carfax yourself? Because its not entirely out of the question that someone would fake a carfax for a lower purchase price .



A "buy back" don't mean it was a lemon. It could also be that once purchased, and still under warranty something broke that would cost more then 70% of the value of the car.

OR it could have been damaged in transit. IE: if the hood got scratched bad wile the car was being shipped to the dealer then the dealer would either refuse the car and have another shipped or they can repair the car and sell it at a discounted price. If the dealer rejected the car then it is possible that GM "bought the car back"

In other words it could be 1000's of reasons for the "buy back" and chances are you will never know.



Also try running another type of title check then carfax. Car fax shows my car went to auction in dec 09. and I owned the car then so I know it did not go through auction.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 11:45 PM
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lushdrunk, what research i could find was it had 37k on it when the original owner in FLA . got GM to buy it back . from their it went to auction . I ran a CARFAX as well to verify . .Needless to say this car now has a redflag that spoils a otherwise nice car . You would think that GM would have better records on corvettes .
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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I PM you as not to cause trouble but if you want trouble you came to the right place . your an eltist snob that worries over a few typos . give it a break pal .
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 01:25 AM
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Nice way to welcome a new member! There are enough spelling and grammatical errors on this forum to make me lose all faith in our education system... to/two/too, they're/there/their, your/you're are just some of the common misuses. It sounds great when people start sentences with "I seen..." And I doubt 10% of the members here know the correct use of apostrophes. There are a few of those errors in his posts, but hey, let's make sure we call him out because he puts spaces before periods!

To the original poster: I don't think you're under any obligation to disclose the blemish on the Carfax. You're obligated to disclose problems with the car, but the blemish on the Carfax is not a problem with the car. You have no idea why it's there; in fact, it could be a mistake. It wouldn't be the first time there was an error on a Carfax report. I would try to find out what could cause Carfax to report a buy-back. Could it even be something as simple as a lease return that was reported incorrectly? If potential buyers are put off by the report, they can have the car inspected for all problems that could cause a buy-back. Once they're satisfied there are no issues with the car, there shouldn't be a problem. It's NOT the same as a previous salvage title. Good luck!

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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 03:53 AM
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Did you have anything helpful or useful to contribute to the thread? or did this little gem of wisdom seem so important and revolutionary that you couldn't restrain yourself? The comment certainly was revealing... and not about the OP.

For the OP, I agree that carfax can often sour a deal with wrong or misleading information. One of my vehicles shows it failed the state mandated emissions inspection 3 times, Which of course makes the less knowledgeable wonder.

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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 04:32 AM
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And you must disclose the info to the new owner now that you are aware of it.
Not sure I agree. You don't know of any specific problem with the car, just that GM repurchased it. That, in itself, is not a problem. If the buyer specifically asks you if you have a Carfax you probably should say yes, but there's no reason you have to volunteer the fact that you have one.
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OK kids, play nice in the sand box.........keep it on topic.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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Interesting the CARFAX report does indicates that at the 3 year mark (37k) the car was either bought back from GM or that it was a lemon ,again it does not say which. But at 37 k/3years that could very well be a lease turn in . If thats the case though this would be a serious flaw in CARFAX record keeping. I'm wondering if GM keeps record of such things ? i had a friend pull the cars history but little to nothing comes up.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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Interesting the CARFAX report does indicates that at the 3 year mark (37k) the car was either bought back from GM or that it was a lemon ,again it does not say which. But at 37 k/3years that could very well be a lease turn in . If thats the case though this would be a serious flaw in CARFAX record keeping. I'm wondering if GM keeps record of such things ? I had a friend that works at a chevy dealership pull the cars history but little to nothing comes up.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 08:53 AM
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If GM has little to no info on this, i would try to track down the owner at the time that the buy back occurred to find out what the reason was. This may be the only way to find out.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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I'm trying to track down the original owner now luckly I'm the 3rd owner so its not to bad but still proving diffcult . The car was from FLA. and i'm in MA. so thats kinda a problem next week I'm bring the car to a Corvette Shop that has a excellent reputation and I'm having the car gone through top to bottom . My plan is to have something in writing to counter the CARFAX report I feel this car is not as CARFAX claims and the more I research CARFAX the more I see major problems with the system . Their are many complaints against them .
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by lushdrunk
Also try running another type of title check then carfax.


When I was looking for my car I had subscribed to both carfax and autocheck. It's interesting to pull VINs from both sites and compare the reports on a single car. Both services compliment each other and neither is perfect.

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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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is there not an appeal process for Carfax? I would think there should be since mistakes get made.
If not they are possibly opening themselves up for litigation I would think.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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KBB will remove negative items from their carfax if you complain. KBB did that when I bought a car and it was clear at the time and less than a year later when I was in the market for another car I ran all the vins of my cars and it came up as a mileage warning. I complained and wanted the 5k carfax guarantee and they refused to give me the money but did remove all info about the mileage so there was no evidence of the mileage discrepancy. Turns out it did have a odometer change and I have no idea what the mileage was or is on the car. Plus the fact that it was a buyback should be on the title.

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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 90sundevil
Is it a Le Mans Blue and from CA, if so it was my old lemon POS Corvette that GM purchased back.
What were the circumstances of the buy back?

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Originally Posted by 90sundevil
KBB will remove negative items from their carfax if you complain. KBB did that when I bought a car and it was clear at the time and less than a year later when I was in the market for another car I ran all the vins of my cars and it came up as a mileage warning. I complained and wanted the 5k carfax guarantee and they refused to give me the money but did remove all info about the mileage so there was no evidence of the mileage discrepancy. Turns out it did have a odometer change and I have no idea what the mileage was or is on the car. Plus the fact that it was a buyback should be on the title.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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Most of the time, Lemon buybacks are due to repeated warranty issues of the same item. The 'Lemon Law' states that if you have to return the car 3x for the same warranty issue, the Dealer can be forced to buy back the car (or manufacturer).

Look in the 'C5 parts for sale' area, you'll see a post by Gene Culley selling parts (or search for posts under his name). Then, send him a PM and ask him to run a GM Warranty report for you. It will show all work done at the dealer under warranty. It could have been something stupid that was warrantied over and over again. You can make sure that item is working (which I'm sure everything is) and it will help explain to potential buyers why the car was bought back. Sometimes is something stupid like a seat track sticking or? If the owner had to bring it in numerous times, they can eventually force a buy back.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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I spoke with Gene Culley they can only go back to 1989. I also call GM in Lansing they were nice but had zero info on this car as well. I contacted CARFAX and they will remove the redflag if I can prove in writing that it was a error. I have no way of contacting the origanl owner however to even know what the cars problem was . I have to say CARFAX does no good with their service if its incomplete and vague.
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