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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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Only 10% of the cars on the road are manuals. I did not know that
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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^^Maybe here in the States......
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 02:10 AM
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They said only 30% of 16 year olds have aquired their driver license...and how is this bad?
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Originally Posted by BrianCunningham
Amen brothers and sisters!!!!!! SAVE THE MANUALS!!! ZF FOREVER!!!!!!

10 best automatic vehicles

1. School buses
2. The bus from the retirement home
3. Taxis
4. Delivery trucks
5. Soccer Mom SUV's
6. Posers SUV's
7. Gangstas' SUV
8. V6 Mustangs
9. Paris Hilton's cars
10. Auntie Emily's Skylark
11. The fat couple with the new C6 Corvette who join the local Corvette Club so they have someone to go and eat with... (Yeah, it is more than ten on the list now... but these people just had to be added to pick fun at the C-5 C-6 "Drive and Dine" set.) The local club in town is about 65-70% "Drive and Dine." The husbands all wear those white orthopaedic walking shoes with the velcro laces!

I am going to go shifting... see ya!

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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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They said only 30% of 16 year olds have aquired their driver license...and how is this bad?
How, I'd say when I was 16 maybe 90% of teenagers had a DL.

Now they want a X Box and they are wimpy teenagers.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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Hollywood douchebags

When I was a kid growing up in New Mexico, you could get your license at 15 with drivers ed. The very morning I turned 15 I was at the DMV.....I counted the days until that magic birthday. I can't believe the kids today are such apathetic slugs that they don't want their licenses the second it's possible. Of course, they're just gonna buy Hawwwndas and put fart cans on them, so no big loss I suppose.

Manuals are great fun.....Until you're stuck for an hour in 5 mph bumper to bumper traffic on the freeway after some moron that was texting stuffed it into the guardrail and took out 5 other cars in the process. Automatics become a real blessing at that point. I'll keep my auto, thanks.

It is sad to see the manuals dying off though.....I learned to drive on a 1970 Ford Maverick with a three on the tree.
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Originally Posted by Frizlefrak
.....I learned to drive on a 1970 Ford Maverick with a three on the tree.
GTFO Friz. My parents had a puke gold 70 Maverick with three on the tree as well. I took that POS everywhere. I used to call it the "Mavervette"
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I was chomping at the bit to get my DL the day I turned 16.

Most of the cars I have owned over the years have been manuals, including the Vettes.
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OMG three in the tree

I remember those
a friend had it on his '64 Suburban.
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Originally Posted by Frizlefrak
Hollywood douchebags

When I was a kid growing up in New Mexico, you could get your license at 15 with drivers ed. The very morning I turned 15 I was at the DMV.....I counted the days until that magic birthday. I can't believe the kids today are such apathetic slugs that they don't want their licenses the second it's possible. Of course, they're just gonna buy Hawwwndas and put fart cans on them, so no big loss I suppose.

Manuals are great fun.....Until you're stuck for an hour in 5 mph bumper to bumper traffic on the freeway after some moron that was texting stuffed it into the guardrail and took out 5 other cars in the process. Automatics become a real blessing at that point. I'll keep my auto, thanks.

It is sad to see the manuals dying off though.....I learned to drive on a 1970 Ford Maverick with a three on the tree.
I prefer to think of it as Manual Transmissions are getting more ELCUSIVE! You do have a point about Rush Hour traffic. When I drive through ATL, I pray for smooth sailing! Otherwise it is like torture if the traffic slows. Like doing 1500-2000 one legged leg presses at the gym!

In this part of Georgia teens are still excited about getting a DL. It has to be over 95%. MSA is about 200,000 people with limited access to public transportation and a fair amount of semi-urban sprawl so if you are a teen you gotta have a car!

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I learned to drive on my father's 59 Rambler with a three on the tree, and even though there was a period of about ten years when I only drove automatices I never forgot how to drive a manual trans car. At one time in order to get a driver's license in the UK you had to take the test on a manual car. I'll admit that driving a manual in bumper to bumper traffic can be a pain, but at least the hydraulic clutch in my 93 makes it somewhat more bearable than the one legged thigh master in my 69.
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Originally Posted by PLRX
How, I'd say when I was 16 maybe 90% of teenagers had a DL.

Now they want a X Box and they are wimpy teenagers.
When I was 16 everybody had a DL and if you didn't, you did not tell anyone and drove anyway.
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When I got my license, I had part-time use (nights and weekends) of a '63 T-Bird. It had a 390 that was begging to be worked on, a four barrel carb, and everything else needed attention but the interior and the paint. It was a classic design and a car you could figure out how to fix and there was plenty of room to do it. Computer, we don't need no stink'in computer.
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Originally Posted by jakers
Amen brothers and sisters!!!!!! SAVE THE MANUALS!!! ZF FOREVER!!!!!!

10 best automatic vehicles

1. School buses
2. The bus from the retirement home
3. Taxis
4. Delivery trucks
5. Soccer Mom SUV's
6. Posers SUV's
7. Gangstas' SUV
8. V6 Mustangs
9. Paris Hilton's cars
10. Auntie Emily's Skylark
11. The fat couple with the new C6 Corvette who join the local Corvette Club so they have someone to go and eat with... (Yeah, it is more than ten on the list now... but these people just had to be added to pick fun at the C-5 C-6 "Drive and Dine" set.) The local club in town is about 65-70% "Drive and Dine." The husbands all wear those white orthopaedic walking shoes with the velcro laces!

I am going to go shifting... see ya!

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I love you Jake.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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I couldn't wait to get my license either, I went on my 16th birthday and unfortunately failed the test. I was probably too anxious. I always bought manuals when I was younger so my 5 sisters and 1 brother couldn't ask to borrow my car, none of them knew how to drive a stick. To me a sportscar isn't a sportscar without a manual transmission. I'm not trying to offend anyone that's just how I feel, and my Corvette isn't my DD.
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I learned to drive on my folk's auto, then learned a stick on my "three on the floor" C-1! For just plain fun, I love a stick but the Vette is an auto so "she" can enjoy it too. A small price to pay for her support in my having it, and gotta say there are times I don't mind an auto after all.

As for kids, our granddaughter lives in Tennessee and has her permit at 15. When she and her brother came here for a visit recently she was bummed to learn none of the states between there and NY, nor NY itself, allowed her to drive on a permit. I gave her the obligatory safety speech a few times while in my pickup or the wife's Jeep, but I DID treat her to a Vette ride complete with an on-ramp! Her eyes got REAL big on that part of the ride!
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Originally Posted by Sweet 90
GTFO Friz. My parents had a puke gold 70 Maverick with three on the tree as well. I took that POS everywhere. I used to call it the "Mavervette"
Yep....my older sis had a white stripped down 70 Mav' with the three on the tree....that fell out of second gear if you let up on the throttle. If you were cruising in second you had to physically hold it up or stay in the gas or into neutral she went.

My sis ran the crap outta that car with minimal maintenance for about 7 years....other than the shifter issue, it never missed a beat.
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Originally Posted by Frizlefrak
.....I learned to drive on a 1970 Ford Maverick with a three on the tree.
I learned via 3 on the tree too in driver ed - no automatic's but the instructor had a brake pedal on his side so he could save his? our --- *****.

I really liked/like the shift on the wheel , could still have some fun and the girlfriends could still sit right up to me with their arm over my shoulder since most cars had big bench seats back then, BIGGER seats in the back..... ahhhhhhhmmmmmmmoooooo (I digress

Too bad it still isn't an option on cars and pickups. In snow country like where I am at, the manual would get you out of a bad situation in most cases better than an automatic.

Besides, you could really give dad's tires a work out - and the service stations always made good money on clutch work (don't ask how I know ) Takes me back 40+ years - it was fun being young and dumb

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