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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Vette73
Hmmm....

Young man (I assume); if you need to finance a 14 year old car, you can't afford it. Move on.

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Come on Vette73.... Everyone is waiting for you to defend your comment. I can't wait!!!!!! SNOB....
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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If the mileage is low, the condition is excellent, the price is right, the car is insured for market value, and you are not financing more than 50% of the purchase price, then what's the harm?

It's a 14 year old piece of machinery.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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I financed my 94 from my local bank who I dealt with since I was little. I am 25 now and bought the car when I was 23. financed it for 2 1/5 years. sure I paid a little more on the percent but I bought want I want and I did pay it off and its all mine now.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KARR
Come on Vette73.... Everyone is waiting for you to defend your comment. I can't wait!!!!!! SNOB....
I'll defend him. It's simple, if it's a DD he needs to finance something other than a 14 year old Vette that will be expensive to maintain. If it's a toy, it's never a good idea to finance a toy, especially in these times.

If he has to do it I would stay with a credit union. JMHO.......FYI, not a snob, just a realist that has learned by trial and error
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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I went against logic and financed mine too.

I paid part cash, the other was a check from a credit union.

If I wouldn't have bought the car when I did, I would have had to wait until the next Quasar 6spd came along, and I didn't want to wait. My plan is to have it paid off in a year or less even though I took a 3yr note. I got a surprisingly good interest rate on an older vehicle.

If you're buying a project car, of course don't finance. If it has been a well maintained get in and drive car, I think financing is OK.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon Hekking
...if it's a DD he needs to finance something other than a 14 year old Vette that will be expensive to maintain. If it's a toy, it's never a good idea to finance a toy, especially in these times...
Bingo! If you were on the C2 forum asking about financing a '66 BB that was ready to be converted to Top Flight, my answer might have been different, but if you want to finance a 14 year old Chevy because "you can't afford it right now", then you can't afford it -- right now. Save for it and who knows -- something better may come along.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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A young man wouldn't be able to afford any car then, by that logic. Financing doesn't mean you can't afford it (doesn't mean you can, either).
Bingo!

Unless you've paid cash for your house and every car you've ever purchased...you = hypocrite.

No difference between a $10k Kia and a $10k C4. A car is a car.

I financed my current 96 LT4, I drove it daily the last 3 years. I think bought a $42k Toyota Highlander, financed it too...Im suddenly shocked to find out that I can't afford my LT4.

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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
Bingo!

Unless you've paid cash for your house and every car you've ever purchased...you = hypocrite.

No difference between a $10k Kia and a $10k C4. A car is a car.

I financed my current 96 LT4, I drove it daily the last 3 years. I think bought a $42k Toyota Highlander, financed it too...Im suddenly shocked to find out that I can't afford my LT4.

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Like I said, I learned from experience. I have paid cash for my Vettes and only have a Mortgage, doesn't make me a hypocrite, also doesn't make anyone else wrong.

Also, a huge difference between a $10K Kia and a $10K Vette, the Kia can be driven for much less costs including maintenance, gas and insurance over a C4. If the C4 is a DD then the Kia makes much more sense. Again, only my opinion.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon Hekking
Like I said, I learned from experience. I have paid cash for my Vettes and only have a Mortgage, doesn't make me a hypocrite, also doesn't make anyone else wrong.

Also, a huge difference between a $10K Kia and a $10K Vette, the Kia can be driven for much less costs including maintenance, gas and insurance over a C4. If the C4 is a DD then the Kia makes much more sense. Again, only my opinion.
The $10k corvette most likely still worth $10k this afternoon. The Kia is worth about half that.

A 2010 Corvette costs more than a 2010 Kia to maintain.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon Hekking
Like I said, I learned from experience. I have paid cash for my Vettes and only have a Mortgage, doesn't make me a hypocrite, also doesn't make anyone else wrong.
when someone speaks in such absolution, it absolutely makes them wrong. Opinions are not fact, certainly in this case.

Also, a huge difference between a $10K Kia and a $10K Vette, the Kia can be driven for much less costs including maintenance, gas and insurance over a C4. If the C4 is a DD then the Kia makes much more sense. Again, only my opinion.
Sense being the key word, not afford. By that logic financing any higher operating cost car can't be justified. My current car has 110k miles, Ive put 35k of those on. Oil changes, gas, and a clutch slave cylinder. Not bad for a 15 yr old car that gets 28mpg on the highway.

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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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I bought mine a year ago using the title of my P/U after it was paid off and got a 4.6 intrest rate.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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**** on the negative comments!

If you can make the payments, get the car and enjoy yourself.

And as for the POS Scion comment, I have a Scion and it's not a POS. My other is a 2003 Z06. Of course, my little government salary doesn't go very far...
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
when someone speaks in such absolution, it absolutely makes them wrong. Opinions are not fact, certainly in this case.



Sence being the key word, not afford. By that logic financing any higher operating cost car can't be justified. My current car has 110k miles, Ive put 35k of those on. Oil changes, gas, and a clutch slave cylinder. Not bad for a 15 yr old car that gets 28mpg on the highway.
Not being judgemental or speaking in absolution, this is the same advice I gave my son. He can certainly afford a $10K vette but I was much happier to see him spend more and buy a Civic. He and his small family are just starting out in life and he should have a different priority for his money. Doesn't mean everyone should.

You seem to be taking this very personally, it's not meant to be that way, it's just my opinion. The fact that you did it your way has no bearing on what's right or wrong. If it works for you or anyone else, good for you. It is dangerous to finance toys right now, money is more expensive and harder to get. No matter what you say, a guy can drive a near new $10K Kia for less over 3 years than a 14 year old Vette. Does anyone really not think that's correct? Does anyone see the value of a C4 being at the bottom yet? I don't.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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Not taking it personally at all....been here too long for that. Just over the Dave Ramsey big ballers that brag in OT about how much money they have, or that they pay cash for everything, and if you don't you can't afford it. Its crap and anyone in touch with reality knows it. Hence mr Vette73 running to OT to attempt to drum up support for his position. That worked well.

Hell if you bought a house 3 years ago, at this point the Corvette would have been a way better investment if you needed to sell.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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To address the OP's question, try the credit union idea first. You can also borrow against your 401K if you have one, and then you're paying the interest back to yourself.......and if all else fails, ask the seller if they will finance it. If you can come up with a decent down payment, have references and a stable work situation, they just might.

FWIW, with the exception of a (reasonable) mortgage, I'm a cash only guy too.....but that doesn't make my philosophy right for everyone. IMHO debt makes you a slave to your job. I know way too many people who are two paychecks from living in the street because they couldn't shake the "finance it" bug of instant gratification. No thanks. But again, just because I don't use credit doesn't mean nobody should. To each his own. I just strongly advise paying off one debt before acquiring another.

Good luck to you on buying the Corvette of your dreams.
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
Not taking it personally at all....been here too long for that. Just over the Dave Ramsey big ballers that brag in OT about how much money they have, or that they pay cash for everything, and if you don't you can't afford it. Its crap and anyone in touch with reality knows it. Hence mr Vette73 running to OT to attempt to drum up support for his position. That worked well.

Hell if you bought a house 3 years ago, at this point the Corvette would have been a way better investment if you needed to sell.
Now I'm a Dave Ramsey Big Baller? I'm not bragging about anything, sorry you see it that way. Funny, just read today that over 35% of Americans have a credit score under 650 and dropping.

Everyone can do what they want based on their situation, but criticizing how I do things compared to how you did it may make you a bit of a hypocrite. Again, I'm just giving my point of view, not judging anyone.........

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Originally Posted by SurfnSun

Hell if you bought a house 3 years ago, at this point the Corvette would have been a way better investment if you needed to sell.
Sad, but in many cases, true.

If I had pulled cash out of my 401K 3 years ago and bought a new Corvette with it, my total investment would have taken less of a loss than it has now.
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I'm not bragging about anything, ...
You didn't even finance the Taurus?
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Frizlefrak
You didn't even finance the Taurus?
Cash on the barrel head for that bad boy, didn't want to risk losing it
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
Bingo!

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No difference between a $10k Kia and a $10k C4. A car is a car.

...

GMAFB
A $10,000 Kia is new with a warranty

There are a few good points on both sides of the argument. If you get a really low interest rate, then little harm done, but I have a feeling, being young, that that won't be the case.

I have kept track of my vette expenses, doing much of the work myself, and it easily uses $100 a month in parts trying to keep up with repairs/maint. and minor restoration.

I bought my 95 a little rough around the edges because I didn't want to borrow money. I really wanted a $20k ZR-1, but I already have a flagship big money ride in my garage, so i just bought a second car I had some cash for.
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