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The older we get the faster they were. Ill always love the old muscle cars, you knew you were driving something, it didnt drive you.
Sadly enough many of those old cars couldnt muster better than 14 sec time slips, partly due to the skinny crappy tires they had back then. Even a lot of big block cars were pigs in the 1/4 but were a hell of a lot of fun to drive. Just dont get that feeling with any late model car....Lack of bodylines, chrome bumpers, trim, fenders you could lean on and they wouldnt crumple in etc. Miss all that.
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And whats up with the GTO? I had a 67 and that was a beautiful car. Today it's nothing special at all, it blends right in with all of the ricers.
I agree. The last GTO was an Aussie make-over and many have stated that exact opinion. I do respect it's performance and capabilities, but you have to be a 'Gearhead' to even spot one, or know what it is.
I agree. The last GTO was an Aussie make-over and many have stated that exact opinion. I do respect it's performance and capabilities, but you have to be a 'Gearhead' to even spot one, or know what it is.
Actually Its funny this one comes up, and maybe its the answer to what im asking. I have a 6 month old and just inherited my grandparents 95 cutlass, and have my 94 vette. But I've been thinking of getting rid of both and looking to combine the two into something fun with a back seat which, I can tell you, the market is quite slim. Sure there are the 30,000 used audi and mercs but im lookin at around 22k tops. I whittled it down to an LS1 trans am, 01 Cobra mustang, or due to a suggestion from a forum member an LS2 GTO. From that im almost dead set on a GTO. In addition to performance, if you have never looked at the color matched interior on one you need to. It is leaps and bounds above any car less then 40,000 honestly. I hate that it weighs as much as it does, but being based on a sedan platform four of me(5'11" 190lbs) would fit in the car and I cant complain about that. The fact that the WS6 doesnt have an independent suspension and the other two do helps tip the scales for me. And of course there are the looks.
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It falls well behind the other two yes, but the little subtle things make it look way better, like deleting the kidney bean grills a la ram air trans am and grand ams. I think its funny people compare it to imports, yet it looks like none EVER. It honestly looks like a 3 or 5 series BMW more then anything with its kidney shaped grill. I figure its a lot easier to spend less then 500 to tweak the exterior then 2,000 on engine work also. I look at it as a total package. Do I want luxery? No, but the interior happens to be awesome. I look at it as a car that has a lot for the money. Just not muscle car "feel" to it. Yet so many bash it just on looks alone. I think younger guys say, if there's a sporty car that does everything pretty good, then why look at a muscle car that only does a few things well, which is why younger guys go for things like EVO's and 370Z over mustangs. The disapproval of newer cars by the older cars though, im still trying to understand.
The disapproval of newer cars by the older cars though, im still trying to understand.
I hear you and I applaud your efforts to help visualize the concept! The photo's make a point. The Mustang, still looks like a Mustang. The Trans Am, maybe not so much, but it is still a two door 'Pony' type car. The reason that some of us are 'down' on the GTO is that the new GTO, even as awesome as it is, does not track to it's lineage and history as a traditional GTO.
From the 1964 GTO and then through 1973, you could recognize where that car came from. The lineage was obvious. A lot of us older guys are unhappy with the recent practice of 'badge' whoring. This is the practice of taking the well recognized name of an American Product and slapping it on something, just so that it will sell.
An example of this is the Audio manufacturer 'Altec Lansing'. Back in the day, most of the movie theatres in the United States and many of the recording studios used Altec Lansing speakers for their sound systems. It was well made, high quality and legendary. Now they use the name for cheap plastic PC audio crap that's made in China. Not saying the last GTO is crap, but what I am saying is that the last GTO is as deserving the name 'GTO' as a new Ford SHO Taurus deserves the name 'Mustang'. And that's what gets our 'Goat' !
My corruption took place at the tender young age of 13. That would have made it about 1971. I'm sitting in the back seat of my dads Mercury Monterey on our way to grandmas house in NYC and we come to a stop at a light under an overhead subway tressle. An old (well it wasn't old then) '66 shoebox Nova pulls up along side us. He's got a tunnel ram scoop so big he must have had to look around it to see what was in front of him, the car could barely idle, big fatties in the back, little skinnies up front, cragar SS's, etc...
The light turned green, the guy looked over, saw me drooling at his car and must have stood on the gas with both feet... the car car was off in a cloud of tire smoke...headers and header muffs screaming all the way! My mom and dad, god rest their souls, just shook their heads in disapproval...me...I was hooked for life! I'll never forget that day as long as I live.
We were corrupted then, and some are lucky enough to indulge that corruption today, i've seen other members cars on here that will knock your socks off. case in point...my corruption. others have better.
I just keep on thinking of the words to the song "Red Barchetta" by Rush.
I strip away the old debris
That hides a shining car
A brilliant red Barchetta
From a better vanished time
I fire up the willing engine
Responding with a roar
Tires spitting gravel
I commit my weekly crime
Will it come to this?
Have you ever read the story the song was based on? Fun but scarily true!