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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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Can someone tell me the steps to pull the codes for the service engine light? I just got a C4 to basically play with and bring back to life and my service engine lights comes on and goes off every once in awhile, so I was hoping someone could tell me the steps to pull the codes by jumping the wires... I did try to use the search feature, but I couldn't figure out exactly how to do it... Thanks in advance for any help.

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I'd tell you to take a look above you in the 'sticky' section under the 'Ultimate DIY Thread' (which is where this came from)- but it's 'Under Construction' at the moment.

Another place to find quite a few tidbits

https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti....php?TopicID=2



http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1574918379-post18.html
will lead you to this shown below. Tell us what year you've got, and someone may be able to tell you what the codes are after you pull them.

ALDL 201 (OBD I)

1981 Corvette (L81) models have a very simple computerised ignition timing system. There is very little diagnostic information available with these cars. The GM shop manual is recommended for this vehicle. The ALDL connector is under the centre console ash tray.

1982 Corvette (L83 Crossfire) models had a more detailed ECM, much like later vehicles. The location of the ALDL connector is under the centre console ash tray. The diagnosis is more simplified, but similar to later vehicles.

From 1984 until the end of the 1993 model year a 12 pin ALDL was used. After that, a 16 pin ALDL connector was used. The 1994 and 1995 model year still used the OBD-I system even though they have 16 pin connectors. The 16 pin connector in the 1996 C4 is used for the much more complex OBD-II system and a scan tool is required to discover the OBD-II system's secrets.

For the '84- end of '93, 12 pins:


Pin "B" is the diagnostic enable pin and pin "A" is ground. Grounding pin "B" to enable the diagnostic readout of the ECM/PCM.

To recover the codes, short pins "A" and "B" together using a small section of electrical wire or paper clip.

With the ignition turned OFF, short pins "A" and "B" on the ALDL.

Turn IGN ON (but not to RUN).

The "Check Engine" light (early C4s) or "SYS" light (later C4s) will flash a Code 12 (a single flash followed by two flashes) and will repeat three times (Flash (pause) Flash Flash (long pause), Flash (pause) Flash Flash (long pause), Flash (pause) Flash Flash (long pause).

Code 12 is a delimiter or marker code to show where the error code string begins and ends.

After the three Code 12 flashes, you will either get an error code (or codes) or you will get another string of Code 12 flashes if there are no trouble codes stored.

All codes are repeated three times with a long pause between each code group (36 or Flash Flash Flash pause followed by six flashes, repeated three times, folowed by a long pause with any additional codes stored then flashed).

The "Check Engine/System" light on with engine running means the condition(s) are currently present. If the light is not on during RUN operation, the limits were exceeded at some point in time and the event was recorded in memory, but the reading has since returned to the normal operating range.

Remember to remove the shorting device from the connector after you have read the codes.

Clearing the Codes

To clear the codes from memory, remove the negative battery cable for a minimum of 10 seconds.

Disconnecting the battery will clear all stored codes and and any stored memory (radio button presets, clock, trip odometer, average gas mileage memory, power seats). Your ECM/PCM computer will also have to relearn timing/mixture/exhaust emissions.

Make absolutely certain the ignition key is turned OFF. If you connect the battery with the ignition switch ON, you can destroy the ECM/PCM module.

For 1994 and later models, you will need to recover the codes using a special procedure involving the speedometer and the odometer as explained in the service manual or use a special diagnostic device known as a scan tool.

For the '94 - '95, 16 pins (but still OBD I):



Beginning in 1994, you short pin "12" to pin "4" and once again turn the ignition switch to "On" without starting the engine.

The speedometer will display any codes using the same protocol as the 1990-1993 model but there are some changes in the designation for the modules plus additional modules are added:

Module "1" is still the CCM module.

Module "4" is now called the PCM module (Powertrain Control Module) because automatic transmission computer control was added to Engine Control Module in 1994.

Module 7 (on the 1996 model only) is the RTD module. (This is the Real Time Dampening module which replaced the Selective Ride Control module in 1996).

Module 9 is the ABS/ASR module number from 1994 through 1996.

Finally, Module "A", the DERM (Dynamic Energy Control Module --- the air bag control module) will be requested to show any codes.

Just like the 1990-1993 display, you read the codes on the speedometer and read the module number on the trip odometer.

Again, you can cause the codes to repeat by turning the ignition off for five seconds and then back on.

Turn the ignition off and remove the short to restore normal operation.
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Originally Posted by socalman
I'd tell you to take a look above you in the 'sticky' section under the 'Ultimate DIY Thread' (which is where this came from)- but it's 'Under Construction' at the moment.

Another place to find quite a few tidbits

https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti....php?TopicID=2



http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1574918379-post18.html
will lead you to this shown below. Tell us what year you've got, and someone may be able to tell you what the codes are after you pull them.

ALDL 201 (OBD I)

1981 Corvette (L81) models have a very simple computerised ignition timing system. There is very little diagnostic information available with these cars. The GM shop manual is recommended for this vehicle. The ALDL connector is under the centre console ash tray.

1982 Corvette (L83 Crossfire) models had a more detailed ECM, much like later vehicles. The location of the ALDL connector is under the centre console ash tray. The diagnosis is more simplified, but similar to later vehicles.

From 1984 until the end of the 1993 model year a 12 pin ALDL was used. After that, a 16 pin ALDL connector was used. The 1994 and 1995 model year still used the OBD-I system even though they have 16 pin connectors. The 16 pin connector in the 1996 C4 is used for the much more complex OBD-II system and a scan tool is required to discover the OBD-II system's secrets.

For the '84- end of '93, 12 pins:


Pin "B" is the diagnostic enable pin and pin "A" is ground. Grounding pin "B" to enable the diagnostic readout of the ECM/PCM.

To recover the codes, short pins "A" and "B" together using a small section of electrical wire or paper clip.

With the ignition turned OFF, short pins "A" and "B" on the ALDL.

Turn IGN ON (but not to RUN).

The "Check Engine" light (early C4s) or "SYS" light (later C4s) will flash a Code 12 (a single flash followed by two flashes) and will repeat three times (Flash (pause) Flash Flash (long pause), Flash (pause) Flash Flash (long pause), Flash (pause) Flash Flash (long pause).

Code 12 is a delimiter or marker code to show where the error code string begins and ends.

After the three Code 12 flashes, you will either get an error code (or codes) or you will get another string of Code 12 flashes if there are no trouble codes stored.

All codes are repeated three times with a long pause between each code group (36 or Flash Flash Flash pause followed by six flashes, repeated three times, folowed by a long pause with any additional codes stored then flashed).

The "Check Engine/System" light on with engine running means the condition(s) are currently present. If the light is not on during RUN operation, the limits were exceeded at some point in time and the event was recorded in memory, but the reading has since returned to the normal operating range.

Remember to remove the shorting device from the connector after you have read the codes.

Clearing the Codes

To clear the codes from memory, remove the negative battery cable for a minimum of 10 seconds.

Disconnecting the battery will clear all stored codes and and any stored memory (radio button presets, clock, trip odometer, average gas mileage memory, power seats). Your ECM/PCM computer will also have to relearn timing/mixture/exhaust emissions.

Make absolutely certain the ignition key is turned OFF. If you connect the battery with the ignition switch ON, you can destroy the ECM/PCM module.

For 1994 and later models, you will need to recover the codes using a special procedure involving the speedometer and the odometer as explained in the service manual or use a special diagnostic device known as a scan tool.

For the '94 - '95, 16 pins (but still OBD I):



Beginning in 1994, you short pin "12" to pin "4" and once again turn the ignition switch to "On" without starting the engine.

The speedometer will display any codes using the same protocol as the 1990-1993 model but there are some changes in the designation for the modules plus additional modules are added:

Module "1" is still the CCM module.

Module "4" is now called the PCM module (Powertrain Control Module) because automatic transmission computer control was added to Engine Control Module in 1994.

Module 7 (on the 1996 model only) is the RTD module. (This is the Real Time Dampening module which replaced the Selective Ride Control module in 1996).

Module 9 is the ABS/ASR module number from 1994 through 1996.

Finally, Module "A", the DERM (Dynamic Energy Control Module --- the air bag control module) will be requested to show any codes.

Just like the 1990-1993 display, you read the codes on the speedometer and read the module number on the trip odometer.

Again, you can cause the codes to repeat by turning the ignition off for five seconds and then back on.

Turn the ignition off and remove the short to restore normal operation.
Wow.. thank you so much.. I realize that it is a basic question for most, but I am just getting started with an 86 and I had no idea where to start.. Thanks again..I really appreciate it...
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Originally Posted by cutnitclose
Wow.. thank you so much.. I realize that it is a basic question for most, but I am just getting started with an 86 and I had no idea where to start.. Thanks again..I really appreciate it...
I know where to find the stuff- but I'm just learning how to use it all myself
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Originally Posted by socalman
I know where to find the stuff- but I'm just learning how to use it all myself
I picked up an 86 that someone else had started on..I actually traded a truck that I had 300.00 in for it.. I have guy coming by tomorrow to pick it to paint it for me.. I have an el camino sitting that he is going to trade the piant job for.. I will then have 1100,00 in it.. It runs and drives great, but it seems to heistate some and then there is the check engine light... I'm hoping it can be much as it only has 50,384 miles on it..Needs a highlight motor and windshield, but I didn't think I could beat it for the money.. I figure I will play with it to fix it up and drive it every once in awhile Here is a pic of it

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Can't beat the price! You will find lots of good info on the forum- I know I have. Good luck with your new ride.
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Can't beat the price! You will find lots of good info on the forum- I know I have. Good luck with your new ride.
Thank you..
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Thanks again for the info... It was/is

44- oxygen sensor or circuit - lean exhaust detected

It seems to be popping up aand then going away.. That may explain the hesitation I get sometimes..
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Originally Posted by socalman
I know where to find the stuff- but I'm just learning how to use it all myself
I don't know what is better, your tech tips or the different avatars you use. All good.

This information on how to read codes is perfect, I used it last night to diagnose my own CEL. Is the list of codes in the FAQ? I couldn't find them on first look.
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I don't know what is better, your tech tips or the different avatars you use. All good.

This information on how to read codes is perfect, I used it last night to diagnose my own CEL. Is the list of codes in the FAQ? I couldn't find them on first look.
I think the codes vary from year to year. I'm thinking 84 is by itself, 85-91, then 92-93, 94-96. I'm going to see if I can find the code listings.

Edit; that didn't take long

1984:

code 13 =1 flash followed by 3 flashes =>oxygen sensor
code 14 =1 flash followed by 4 flashes =>coolant sensor
code 15 =1 flash followed by 5 flashes =>coolant sensor
code 21 = 2 flashes followed by 1 flash =>throttle position sensor
code 22 = 2 flashes followed by 2 flashes=> throttle position sensor
code 23 = 2 flashes followed by 3 flashes=> manifold air temp sensor
code 24 = 2 flashes followed by 4 flashes=> vehicle speed sensor
code 25 = 2 flashes followed by 5 flashes=> manifold air temp sensor
code 32 =>egr system
code 33 =>map sensor
code 34 =>maf sensor
code 35 => idle air control
code 41 => cylinder select error
code 42 => electronic spark control
code 43 => electronic spark control
code 44 => lean exhaust
code 45 => rich exhaust
code 51 => PROM
code 52 => fuel calpak
code 53 => system over voltage
code 54 => fuel pump circuit
code 55 => ecm
code 62 => oil temp

1985-1991

Code #12: Normal No Codes.
Code #13: Open Oxygen Sensor Circuit.
Code #14: Coolant Sensor Circuit Low.
Code #15: Coolant Sensor Circuit High.
Code #21: Throttle Position Sensor High.
Code #22: Throttle Position Sensor Low.
Code #23: Manifold Air Temperature Circuit High.
Code #24: Vehicle Speed Sensor.
Code #25: Manifold Air Temperature Circuit Low.
Code #32: EGR System Failure.
Code #33: Mass Air Flow Sensor High.
Code #34: Mass Air Flow Sensor Low.
Code #36: Mas Air Flow Sensor Burn-Off Function Fault.
Code #41: Cylinder Select Error.
Code #42: Electronic Spark Timing.
Code #43: Electronic Spark Control.
Code #44: Lean Exhaust indication.
Code #45: Rich Exhaust Indication.
Code #46: Vehicle Anti Theft Fault.
Code #51: Faulty Mem-Cal.
Code #52: Fuel Calpak Missing.
Code #52(1990-91 Corvette Only): Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Low.
Code #53: System Over Voltage.
Code #54: Fuel Pump Circuit Low Voltage.
Code #55: Defective ECM.
Code #62: Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Circuit High

1992-1993


Code #12: Normal No Codes.
Code #13: Left Oxygen Sensor Circuit.
Code #14: Coolant Temperature Sensor Circuit High.
Code #15: Coolant Temperature Sensor Circuit Low.
Code #16: Opti-Spark Ignition Timing System.( Low Pulse)
Code #21: Throttle Position Sensor Circuit High.
Code #22: Throttle Position Sensor Circuit Low.
Code #23: Intake Air Temperature Sensor Circuit Low.
Code #24: Vehicle Speed Sensor Circuit.
Code #25: Intake Temperature Sensor Circuit High.
Code #26: Quad-Driver Module #1 Circuit.
Code #27: Quad-Driver Module #2 Circuit.
Code #28: Quad-Driver Module #3 Circuit.
Code #32: Exhaust Gas Recirclation Circuit.
Code #33: Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit Low.
Code #34: Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit High.
Code #36: Opti-Spark Ignition Timing System. (High Resolution Pulse.)
Code #41: Electronic Spark Timing Circuit Open.
Code #42: Electronic Spark Timing Circuit Grounded.
Code# 43: Electronic Spark Control Circuit.
Code #44: Left Oxygen Sensor Circuit Lean.
Code #45: Left Oxygen Sensor Circuit Rich.
Code #51: Mem-Cal Error.
Code #52: Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Circuit Low.
Code #53: System Voltage.
Code #55: Fuel Lean Monitor.
Code #56: Vacuum Sensor Circuit.
Code #61: Secondary Port Throttle Valve System.
Code #62: Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Circuit High.
Code #63: Right Oxygen Sensor Circuit Open.
Code #64: Right Oxygen Sensor Circuit Lean.
Code #65: Right Oxygen Sensor Circuit Rich.
Code #66: A/C Pressure Sensor Circuit Open.
Code #67: A/C Pressure Sensor Circuit. (Sensor or A/C Clutch Circuit Problem)
Code #68: A/C Relay Circuit Shorted.
Code #69: A/C Clutch Circuit.
Code #72: Gear Selector Switch Circuit.

1994-1996

DTC #11: Malfunction Indicator Lamp Circuit.
DTC #13: Bank #1 Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit:
DTC #14: Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #15: Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage High.
DTC #16: Distributor Ignition System Low Pulse.
DTC #18: Injector Circuit.
DTC #21: Throttle Position Sensor Circuit Voltage High.
DTC #22: Throttle Position Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #23: Intake Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage High.
DTC #24: Vehicle Speed Sensor Circuit.
DTC #25: Intake Air Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #26: Evaporative Emission Canister Purge Solenoid Valve Circuit.
DTC #27: EGR Vacuum Control Signal Solenoid Valve Circuit.
DTC #28: Transmission Range Pressure Switch Assembly Fault.
DTC #29: Secondary Air Injection Pump Circuit.
DTC #32: Exhaust Gas Recalculation.
DTC #33: Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit High.
DTC #34: Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit Low.
DTC #36: Distributor Ignition System High Pulse.
DTC #37: Brake Switch Stuck On.
DTC #38: Brake Switch Stuck Off.
DTC #41: Ignition Control Circuit Open.
DTC #42: Ignition Control Circuit Shorted.
DTC #43: Knock Sensor Circuit.
DTC #44: Bank 1 LF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Lean.
DTC #45: Bank 1 LF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Rich.
DTC #47: Knock Sensor Circuit Or Module Missing.
DTC #48: Mass Air Flow Sensor Circuit.
DTC #50: System Voltage Low.
DTC #51: EEPROM Programming Error.
DTC #52: Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #53: System Voltage Low.
DTC #55: Fuel Lean Monitor.
DTC #58: Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Circuit Low.
DTC #59: Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Circuit High.
DTC #62: Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Circuit Voltage Low.
DTC #63: Bank 2 RF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Open.
DTC #64: Bank 2 RF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Lean.
DTC #65: Bank 2 RF Heated Oxygen Sensor #1 Circuit Rich.
DTC #66: A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Circuit Open.
DTC #67: A/C Pressure Sensor Circuit Sensor or A/C Clutch.
DTC #68: A/C Relay Circuit.
DTC #69: A /C Clutch Circuit.
DTC #70: A/C Clutch Relay Driver Circuit.
DTC #72: Vehicle Speed Sensor Loss.
DTC #73: Pressure Control Solenoid Circuit Current Error.
DTC #74: Traction Control System Circuit Low.
DTC #75: Transmission System Voltage Low
DTC #77: Primary Cooling Fan Relay Control Circuit.
DTC #78: Secondary Cooling Fan Relay Control Circuit.
DTC #79: Transmission Fluid Overtemp.
DTC #80: Transmission Component Slipping.
DTC #81: Transmission 2-3 Shift Solenoid Circuit.
DTC #82: Transmission 1-2 Shift Solenoid Circuit.
DTC #83: Torque Converter Solenoid Voltage High.
DTC #84: 3-2 Control Solenoid Circuit.(Auto Only).
DTC #84: 2nd And 3rd Gear Blockout Relay Control Circuit.
DTC #85: Transmission TCC Stock On.
DTC #90: Transmission TCC Solenoid Circuit.
DTC #91: One To Four Upshift Lamp(Manual Only).
DTC #97: VSS Output Circuit.
DTC #98: Tachometer Output Signal Voltage Wrong.

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To the OP- now that you have your code, you can diagnose the problem with info from the '86 Factory Service Manual. This is the book the dealers use and would be a good thing to have for now and for the future. You can find it at aftermarket vendors or maybe on ebay. It was originally published by Helm Inc. and I don't know if that is still a source.
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Originally Posted by sailorsteve
To the OP- now that you have your code, you can diagnose the problem with info from the '86 Factory Service Manual. This is the book the dealers use and would be a good thing to have for now and for the future. You can find it at aftermarket vendors or maybe on ebay. It was originally published by Helm Inc. and I don't know if that is still a source.
Thanks for the info.. I will head over to the bay and look right now.. Thanks again for the info..
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Just a FYI; I called the parts house and they said it could be a fuel filter causing the pressure to drop off thus causing the hesitation and the light.. Not sure if it will help, but I though I would post it on here just in case someone else reads this thread that has the same problem..Thanks to everyone for the help and info..
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Just a FYI; I called the parts house and they said it could be a fuel filter causing the pressure to drop off thus causing the hesitation and the light.. Not sure if it will help, but I though I would post it on here just in case someone else reads this thread that has the same problem..Thanks to everyone for the help and info..
That could be the solution, or not. The code does not tell you what part(s) to replace, only where to look. In any event, it's not a good idea to throw parts at a problem, hoping for the best. The manual will have a step-by-step diagram to walk you through the diagnosis, so you replace or repair only the faulty item(s). That said, there is a wealth of info on this forum, and many members who know their stuff and will help.
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Originally Posted by sailorsteve
That could be the solution, or not. The code does not tell you what part(s) to replace, only where to look. In any event, it's not a good idea to throw parts at a problem, hoping for the best. The manual will have a step-by-step diagram to walk you through the diagnosis, so you replace or repair only the faulty item(s). That said, there is a wealth of info on this forum, and many members who know their stuff and will help.
Excellent point.. I will try to find one.. It was picked up about 30 minutes ago to be painted.. I won't get it back until after the holidays.. That should give me time to get my ducks in a row before then..

Thanks again for all of the help/info.. I will try to update to let everyone know what the root cause was..
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I did try to use the search feature, but I couldn't figure out exactly how to do it... Thanks in advance for any help.
The secret is to use quotes " around what you are searching for. Don't search for replacing starter, search for "replacing starter". For whatever reason,that helps a whole lot.
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The secret is to use quotes " around what you are searching for. Don't search for replacing starter, search for "replacing starter". For whatever reason,that helps a whole lot.
along with clicking 'search titles' (default is set up at 'search posts', which usually comes up a mess.....and then choosing the correct forum 'C4 Gen' 'C4 Tech' (can choose more than one by holding CTRL button.
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I appreciate the suggestion from the both of you.. I will it it next time...I would say it is my non expert computer skills is most of the problem..
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By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


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8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


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10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


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How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


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Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


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Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


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150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


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8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


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