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Le Mans Master
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remove the seats, pull all the old , its a good time to replace the padding and sound deadener, takes probably 8 hrs , the new carpet fits under the console without removing it , the knee bolsters need to be removed and left over night for the glue to set and hold them up, door sills, ebrake handle, are easier to work with if removed. The plastic across the back latch area should be removed also. 
To add to this, today I pulled my new carpet out to replace the pad and sound deadener that I didnt do the first time. 
My bad. You need to remove the console to get the 'across the tunell' padding out and then the new in and remove the seat belts. My old padding didnt smell moldy, but it was wet down under the foot area and its that oem padding that retains moisture. I'm installing 70mil 'fatmat' and will post pics, I have the befores but not the afters.
a little more to this, I had bout 4" of water under the passenger side storage compartment, so hatch rail drains are goin in along with that weather strip kit that I've had since last summer.
To add to this, today I pulled my new carpet out to replace the pad and sound deadener that I didnt do the first time. My bad. You need to remove the console to get the 'across the tunell' padding out and then the new in and remove the seat belts. My old padding didnt smell moldy, but it was wet down under the foot area and its that oem padding that retains moisture. I'm installing 70mil 'fatmat' and will post pics, I have the befores but not the afters. a little more to this, I had bout 4" of water under the passenger side storage compartment, so hatch rail drains are goin in along with that weather strip kit that I've had since last summer.
Last edited by oldalaskaman; Mar 19, 2011 at 01:46 AM.
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didnt mean to hyjack this thread, just p.o'd at myself for not doing it right the first time.
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I used UGL contact cement that you brush on. I used a heat gun to remove the old carpet from the doors and dash, the old glue was still on the parts. so I used the heat gun to soften up the glue then put the new carpet on. The new carpet sticks right away so make sure it is line up right, if you make a mistake have your heat gun handy. be very careful you do not burn the new carpet. today I am doing the doors, the same way. Ron
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I used UGL contact cement that you brush on. I used a heat gun to remove the old carpet from the doors and dash, the old glue was still on the parts. so I used the heat gun to soften up the glue then put the new carpet on. The new carpet sticks right away so make sure it is line up right, if you make a mistake have your heat gun handy. be very careful you do not burn the new carpet. today I am doing the doors, the same way. Ron
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when i did mine the first time I used the spray upholstry adhesive, the only complaint was that the knee bolster carpet glue softened up in the summer and released the carpet. I solved it with a few staples.
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all the original glue is, is hot glue no big mystery. melt some with a glue gun, you'll see what I mean. Probably GM used a stroger strength but my carpet glued down fine with just a store bought hot glue gun and yellow sticks.
You just have to do small areas so the glue doesn't cool down. No way will interior temps exceed what the glue gun does so no chance the glue will get that hot for the carpet to release.
You just have to do small areas so the glue doesn't cool down. No way will interior temps exceed what the glue gun does so no chance the glue will get that hot for the carpet to release.
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I bought the glue sold for the purpose from Mid America. It is a brush-on contact type. I could tell right away that it holds much better than the 3M spray...MUCH better. We'll see how it holds up this summer, but we had a cold snap, and it held just fine in the cold (where the 3M stuff showed signs of letting go).
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Hey,
I got my carpet kit in today, cant wait to get started replacing my old worn out stuff + the MAD Vet insulation kit I got......I was wondering if ERNNRON has any updates to his progress?
I think I will use the UGL contact cement previously mentioned, can anybody elaborate on what this is?
I got my carpet kit in today, cant wait to get started replacing my old worn out stuff + the MAD Vet insulation kit I got......I was wondering if ERNNRON has any updates to his progress?
I think I will use the UGL contact cement previously mentioned, can anybody elaborate on what this is?
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Yes, everything the Old Alaskan said but let us know what you are going to use for glue to hold the carpet to the plastic side panels on the center counsel and also the pieces that are on the bottom side of the dash on the right and left sides. Or maybe your 91 doesn't have carpet there. I tried double sided 3M carpet tape and that did not seem like a permanent attachment, so then I tried 3M spray on contact adhesive.....I don't have much confidence in it either. The heat in the summer will loosen any of the glues that I have tried so far. I think the job requires a fast setting rubber type contact adhesive. Let us know what works for you.
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ok,
So Im waist-deep into the carpet R&R on my 91. Turns out the ACC mass-backed carpet also includes some jute-padding.
Heres my question: I have the MADVET heat/sound insulation kit I want to install too. So, whats the best approach: Place the heat insulation down first, and then the jute padding and with the carpet on the top layer? Putting the foil insulation over the jute doesnt seem like it would work very well. On the other hand, the jute padding seems to be tailored to fit into the area exactly....
So Im waist-deep into the carpet R&R on my 91. Turns out the ACC mass-backed carpet also includes some jute-padding.
Heres my question: I have the MADVET heat/sound insulation kit I want to install too. So, whats the best approach: Place the heat insulation down first, and then the jute padding and with the carpet on the top layer? Putting the foil insulation over the jute doesnt seem like it would work very well. On the other hand, the jute padding seems to be tailored to fit into the area exactly....
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insulation first then jute, I used headliner spray adhesive the 2nd time, spray both items, stick together, doesnt even act like it wants to move, and quick. I put dynomat, 'fatmat', the 2nd time also. love it , no more road noise
