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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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I have an 89 Vert automatic. I'm trying to replace the starter and it appears I have to drop the exhaust. Just looking for a little direction and advice. Don't want to pay a garage to replace. I have been able to get one cable removed and trying to get wrench on the second one, which is tight due to gas lines. Any advice would be great. Thanks.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 08:29 AM
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Wonder why there are no responses. Maybe all the C4 guys are sleeping in this AM.

The gas lines you are referring to are really the transmission cooler lines.
Fuel lines are attached to the frame rail. The cooler lines can be flexed enough to get a socket on the starter bolts. The electrical cables can be unbolted with the starter in place or after it is free from the block. If necessary mark/tag every wire. They must go back to their original location. Getting the heavy starter out and back is a tiresome and tricky job but it can be done. You might consider a mini starter as a replacement, makes the job much easier.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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The 89 should already have the small starter on it from the factory, Mine did...The starter is tight but will come out without removing the exhaust..WW
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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ww7 is right already has the small starter. 20 min r&r.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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Mini starter on the 89, I didn't know that. Thanks for the tip.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by hooked073
ww7 is right already has the small starter. 20 min r&r.
So it'll come out without dropping the exhaust? Wow, doesn't seem possible. I'll give it a try. I'm guessing I'll need a long handle socket to get the starter loose as well. I beleive one bolt is on the bottom, I'll have to look for the other one. Thankls for the all the info. I'll keep you updated.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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I have an 86 coupe and I think the process is the same.Mine had a full size starter but came out without touching the exhaust. It is tight but can be done.I replaced mine witha mini starter.
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Well I have an update. I got the old starter out with some prying and pulling. Bought a remanufactured at NAPA with a 3 year warranty for $115.00. Put it back in again with some prying and pulling. She fired right up!! Back on the road!! Thanks for the tips guys!!
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Did you have to mess with any shims? I had read if there are shims to put them on the new starter.
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the old rule on shims is that if it didnt have any, you probably wont need any. the other rule is, ' if if you need more than one thin shim, you need a different starter cause any thicker and the torque of the starter will cause it to flex to much'. back in the day they had a tool that would tell you if you needed a shim or not. havent heard much about it lately.

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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
back in the day they had a tool that would tell you if you needed a shim or not. havent heard much about it lately.
Most, if not all, rebuilt starters come with a wire gauge and instructions on setting bendix/flywheel clearance.
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guess I retired jus in time
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
Did you have to mess with any shims? I had read if there are shims to put them on the new starter.
Shims?? Well that's a good question. No one mentioned them before. The new starter looked exactly like the old one and the old one didn't have any shims. I fit the gear on the starter into the hole and turned it slightly and matched up the holes for the bolts and that was it. Should I be worried that there is a problem? I've started it 3 or four times since and doesn't seeme to be any issue.
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
the old rule on shims is that if it didnt have any, you probably wont need any. the other rule is, ' if if you need more than one thin shim, you need a different starter cause any thicker and the torque of the starter will cause it to flex to much'. back in the day they had a tool that would tell you if you needed a shim or not. havent heard much about it lately.
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