C4 mgb
Race Director
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 10,036
Likes: 346
From: Anaheim CA
I'm amazed that anyone can stick to a project like this and see it through. I've seen many hot rods that were started and never finished. Congrats for the progress thus far.
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Racer
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 252
Likes: 30
From: San Diego Ca
I've seen this before, but still VERY interesting. I read through the 3 linked web pages but couldn't find the 4th one.
I'm amazed that anyone can stick to a project like this and see it through. I've seen many hot rods that were started and never finished. Congrats for the progress thus far.
I'm amazed that anyone can stick to a project like this and see it through. I've seen many hot rods that were started and never finished. Congrats for the progress thus far.
Racer
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 328
Likes: 2
From: Mesa AZ
I posted my reply before but must have forgotten to hit post. This man has tremendous talent. I can tell you from experience (as I have one) you can work with an English wheel for 20 years and never know all the secrets. By cutting the car in half, you completely change the geometry and having to factor in the widened piece is very complex. He is using 16ga steel which is hard to form on an English wheel as it will get you close to what you want and then you have to hammer and dolly. I will form 18ga however 20ga is much easier and then you can seam roll to gain strength and rigidity. Having the correct tools, plus a rotisserie is a body mans dream and if he doesn't have a tool, he has the ability to make it. I think it would be a wonderful experience to talk to him or just be able to work with him and gain some of his knowledge. I am so glad to see someone with skills like this and be able to maintain the perseverance to complete this project. He had my ultimate respect!!!
Tommy
Tommy
Team Owner
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 23,161
Likes: 117
From: San Antonio Texas
Wow! That's like one part Doc Brown with the flux capacitor idea and part Carroll Shelby with the fabrication and all genius! I couldn't do that if I was locked in prison with the thing and every tool known to man!
Very Very COOL! 
Very Very COOL!
Racer
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 252
Likes: 30
From: San Diego Ca
I posted my reply before but must have forgotten to hit post. This man has tremendous talent. I can tell you from experience (as I have one) you can work with an English wheel for 20 years and never know all the secrets. By cutting the car in half, you completely change the geometry and having to factor in the widened piece is very complex. He is using 16ga steel which is hard to form on an English wheel as it will get you close to what you want and then you have to hammer and dolly. I will form 18ga however 20ga is much easier and then you can seam roll to gain strength and rigidity. Having the correct tools, plus a rotisserie is a body mans dream and if he doesn't have a tool, he has the ability to make it. I think it would be a wonderful experience to talk to him or just be able to work with him and gain some of his knowledge. I am so glad to see someone with skills like this and be able to maintain the perseverance to complete this project. He had my ultimate respect!!!
Tommy
Tommy
Team Owner
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 21,543
Likes: 3,216
From: Park City Utah
This project is one of the best I've seen. I LOVE IT! You're building exactly what you want. So cool.
There was a guy here in SLC that I met at auto x events...he had built a frame/Corvette drivetrain VERY similar you yours, but used a Triumph TR4 body. Fastest, most awesome Triumph I've ever seen!
Love your vision/work/progress.
There was a guy here in SLC that I met at auto x events...he had built a frame/Corvette drivetrain VERY similar you yours, but used a Triumph TR4 body. Fastest, most awesome Triumph I've ever seen!
Love your vision/work/progress.
Racer
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 252
Likes: 30
From: San Diego Ca
Got the tune completed today. I was quite surprised - it made 450 rwhp and 543 rwtq, the surprise was that it did it at 4800 rpm and 4000 rpm respectively and well below the peak boost of 8 psi at 6000 rpm. I don't have a video of the pull because I had to sit on the back end to keep the tires from spinning on the rollers. It sounds pretty impressive sitting 2' away from the exhaust tips. The pulley I had on the blower during the previous run was too small and it was making 7 psi at 3800 and over 10 psi at 4500 so we stopped the run. It would have probably been well over 12 psi if we continued. I got a pulley 3 steps larger and this time it made 6 psi at 5500 rpm. The fact that the peak boost was well past the hp peak tells me that the supercharger is too small and is restricting the flow at higher rpm but that is a good thing right now because I still have the stock hypereutectic (cast) pistons in it, the last thing I need right now is more hp at high rpm. I can shift at 5500 rpm and still not drop below the torque peak in the first 5 gears. The car makes over 400 ft lbs of torque from 2700 to 5500 rpm, it pulls like being shot off an aircraft carrier with a catapult. The air/fuel was right at 12:1 under boost and dropped about 1/2 point with the water/methanol injection working. There was never an instance of the knock sensor having to pull timing out due to detonation. I did my happy dance.
If you believe what you read on the internet the flywheel numbers are somewhere between 15% and 20% higher than the rear wheel numbers. If you use the 15% figure that would make the hp 517 and the torque 625 - boggles my mind. I just got on the power rolling in 2nd gear and shifted into 3rd, the clutch didn't slip, the car goes straight and the tires didn't break loose because the power comes on smoothly with the boost but boy does it accelerate!
If you believe what you read on the internet the flywheel numbers are somewhere between 15% and 20% higher than the rear wheel numbers. If you use the 15% figure that would make the hp 517 and the torque 625 - boggles my mind. I just got on the power rolling in 2nd gear and shifted into 3rd, the clutch didn't slip, the car goes straight and the tires didn't break loose because the power comes on smoothly with the boost but boy does it accelerate!
Racer
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 252
Likes: 30
From: San Diego Ca
Got the tune completed today. I was quite surprised - it made 450 rwhp and 543 rwtq, the surprise was that it did it at 4800 rpm and 4000 rpm respectively and well below the peak boost of 8 psi at 6000 rpm. I don't have a video of the pull because I had to sit on the back end to keep the tires from spinning on the rollers. It sounds pretty impressive sitting 2' away from the exhaust tips. The pulley I had on the blower during the previous run was too small and it was making 7 psi at 3800 and over 10 psi at 4500 so we stopped the run. It would have probably been well over 12 psi if we continued. I got a pulley 3 steps larger and this time it made 6 psi at 5500 rpm. The fact that the peak boost was well past the hp peak tells me that the supercharger is too small and is restricting the flow at higher rpm but that is a good thing right now because I still have the stock hypereutectic (cast) pistons in it, the last thing I need right now is more hp at high rpm. I can shift at 5500 rpm and still not drop below the torque peak in the first 5 gears. The car makes over 400 ft lbs of torque from 2700 to 5500 rpm, it pulls like being shot off an aircraft carrier with a catapult. The air/fuel was right at 12:1 under boost and dropped about 1/2 point with the water/methanol injection working. There was never an instance of the knock sensor having to pull timing out due to detonation. I did my happy dance.
If you believe what you read on the internet the flywheel numbers are somewhere between 15% and 20% higher than the rear wheel numbers. If you use the 15% figure that would make the hp 517 and the torque 625 - boggles my mind. I just got on the power rolling in 2nd gear and shifted into 3rd, the clutch didn't slip, the car goes straight and the tires didn't break loose because the power comes on smoothly with the boost but boy does it accelerate!
If you believe what you read on the internet the flywheel numbers are somewhere between 15% and 20% higher than the rear wheel numbers. If you use the 15% figure that would make the hp 517 and the torque 625 - boggles my mind. I just got on the power rolling in 2nd gear and shifted into 3rd, the clutch didn't slip, the car goes straight and the tires didn't break loose because the power comes on smoothly with the boost but boy does it accelerate!