96_vette

This may be a repost or a , but i wil drop the question anyway. The new 2010 Camaro SS i believe has the LS3 engine. A 96 vette, we all know has the LT1 or LT4. Which car will get better 1/4 mile times? I think the SS would fall behind on a road course with all that weight.

5abivt

Depending on driver it could make it closer but the ss should pull ahead. It's trap speed Is easily a few mph higher than a stock lt4s. My 02 ss with just headers makes quick work of my buds 96 lt4 with a b&b exhaust and k&n.

zr1fred

Camaro would beat it like a red headed stepchild

96_vette

Even on a road course? The Camaro is heavier isn't it?

RollaMo-LT4

The LS3 (manually trans SS) is putting out 426HP
If the driver can launch and shift, the Camaro won't have any problems.

Been watching plenty of them run on the Power Tour, and bone stock they are in the low 13's

bac22

Yeah, but I pulled a 12.9 (bone stock) with my LT4 way back when shortly after I got mine. Maybe she's lost some ponies since then, but it comes down to the driver...a redheaded step child she is not.

Mohammed_z

SS Time slip


Cecil County Dragway
10:19 PM 8/27/10

R/T ... .353
60' ... 2.307
330 ... 6.047
1/8 ... 9.005
MPH ... 83.18
1000 ... 11.514
1/4 ... 13.604
MPH ... 107.04




stock lt4 will be something like 12.8 to low 13s. Depends on the driver.

zr1fred

My 01 Z28 6spd beats my 96 LT4 6 spd. Granted, they are both old, but so am I.

Redghost

I hate to say it, BUT,,,,,,

Last year I drove a bright red, 2010 SS Chevy Camaro, from Avis Rentals. Granted, it was a "rental car" and was NOT a V-6 but a V-8. If this is what Chevy is putting all their hopes into, they are s__t out of luck. It was a total DOG.

A few months later, I tried another 2010 SS Camaro. (This one was silver). Same, It's a DOG.

Now remember these were "rental cars". Maybe they put a governor's on them or something, but even with traction control shut off and in water, just a little spin of a tire, is all I could get.

What a let down!

cv67

The SS is going to kill the LT4.
Yeah they weigh more but handle pretty darn good. Technology marches on.
Show me a stock LT4 that has EVER ran a 12 anything wont happen.
Seems the older cars get the faster they were?? ugh

tehcarguy

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JohnTVette

I have only run my LT4 in the 8th thus far, but I can tell you it was good bit quicker than this car's time slip.

ch@0s

I'll take the one that is a "Corvette" when it gets to the finish line.

RedLS1GTO

You are really using a single pass made by some clown at a local strip as some sort of "proof"?

What's next? "I know a guy... " ???

RedLS1GTO

If you are going to internet race... at least use similar sources. (all Motor Trend numbers)

1995 LT1 (auto with 3.07) - 13.7 @ 103
1996 LT4 (was a Grand Sport) - 13.3 @ 104.0
2010 Camaro SS (manual trans) - 13.0 @ 111.0

The only way to know is to line them up and race. However the trap speeds show pretty clearly that if the Camaro hooks up it is adios C4.

92ZR1WANNABE

Alright ...

My good friend and coworker owns a nice bright orange Camaro SS / Auto. On stock tires in good fall air at Firebird Raceway he will run strings of 13.50's 13.60's all night long spinning abit out of the hole. Granted hes trapping around 106-107 mph meaning there is a good bit more in there.

My slightly tweaked LT1 auto stays ahead of him running rock solids 13.30s.

400hp is cool and all but that car is a lead sled.

Anybody that doubts please let me know I will post links to his vids, time slips or whatever. There is usually a huge difference between what the rags say a car will run and what Joeblow will actually run at the track.



*edit*

Haha just looked at the time slip information posted above and yup thats pretty much on par with the auto tranny camaros as well.

JohnTVette

For what it's worth:

http://www.fierolt1.com/lt1_vs_lt4_1.htm


I'm sure we've all seen this 100 times before.

JohnTVette

I would think they should be a bit quicker than that in the 8th. For instance: I've had an automatic G8 GT that ran 9.0 over and over. It's only 365 HP. I had an automatic GTO 6.0 that ran 8.8's and 8.9's consistently. My LT4 has only been to the track once, and it had a best run of 8.78 at around 84 mph. So either that Camaro is getting some serious wheelspin, or something is out of whack.

btw, I'm in Texas and I don't go out when it's cold. So these were on pretty warm evenings.

92ZR1WANNABE

8.8-9.0 in the 1/8 should be ROUGHLY 13.2-13.5 in the 1/4 (keep in mind I say roughly) so the numbers aren't really that far out of wack. He usually runs 1.9x-2.0x 60" times so hes not blistering the rubber off the line.

We usually get no better than a 2000' DA when were at the track so if your air is better or your track is below that elevation you would see some differences there as well.

96GS#007

Many excellent drivers have run in the high 12.9s. With my GS, as delivered, on stock GSC tires, stock air filter element, pump gas, spare tire in place, etc I went 13.001 @ 108mph with a 2.0 60' time. Somewhere at home I still have that time slip from all those years ago. So, not quite 12s but it makes the point. Of course I never ran that again

What many fail to mention are altitude and weather. I was at 500ft and the temp was 54* with very dry/dense air.

During a trip to Denver, CO in 1998, I consistently ran low 14s....at 5200 ft, and 70* temps.

FWIW