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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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I have a maual control heater/AC control in my 94 C4. I see controllers for sale that must be an automatic temperature control unit. Can the manual controller be swapped out for the automatic controller? Or are teh wiring harnesses different depending on the options put in the car?

I read where some cars have one wiring harness and certain plugs just aren't used depending on what options are selected. If this swap is possible, are there other compontents that need to be plugged in to make this functional?

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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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Everything I have ever seen posted here about this subject says it is not as easy as just swapping out the controller.
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 12:31 PM
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On most every car I have seen the standard control is vacumm operated while the automatic one is all electric. So the only way to a swap is to replace the everthing from the head unit to the door controller
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dvoeltz
Dumb question time

I have a maual control heater/AC control in my 94 C4. I see controllers for sale that must be an automatic temperature control unit. Can the manual controller be swapped out for the automatic controller? Or are teh wiring harnesses different depending on the options put in the car?

I read where some cars have one wiring harness and certain plugs just aren't used depending on what options are selected. If this swap is possible, are there other compontents that need to be plugged in to make this functional?

Thanks for tolerating this question.
Thanks not needed, there have been waaaay dumber questions asked (mostly by me)
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 01:50 AM
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In the manual AC head (C60 option), the vacuum lines attach to the back of the controller.

The automatic AC (C68 option) has a separate "HVAC programmer" that has all the vacuum controls in it. Obviously there is a wiring harness that connects the controller to the HVAC programmer. The rear window defroster relay is also attached to the HVAC programmer. I think it's attached to the controller on the C60 option.

I think it's possible that the temperature door motor module might be different. Not sure about that one. I do know that the PC board in my C68 option car has a bunch of holes without components, so they might be filled in a C60 option car.

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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Also, from what I have seen on the Forum, the electronic control tends to be more problematic, and more expensive to repair as well. My '88 is electronic and the plus is that it does look nice when it works. From looking at the FSM and looking at it, it would be a pita to switch.
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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are you having any problems or are you just wanting to upgrade?
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by red89c4
are you having any problems or are you just wanting to upgrade?
No problems with mine, but thought if it was an easy switch, I'd add it to my to do list. I think this is one project best forgotten.

Thanks to all for the input.

Dave in Pierre, SD
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