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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 10:37 AM
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im trying to find out if there is a way to switch/add MAF to my 1993 corvette. any help or pointers will be appreciated
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Just curious, why would you want too? It would be difficult and expensive, you would probably need to go with 94-95 wiring and computer, they use both MAF and MAP and a better computer (96's use OBD2). The earlier L98 systems would be worse as far as tuning.
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the reason i was wanting to switch or add maf is because i have a 383 with a 306 cam and the cars vacuum droped from 18 to 11 due to the cam. so the map sensor is adding too much gas because the vacuum has droped. i was told the car would be able to adjust itself better with maf
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Originally Posted by 2outlaw1993
i have a 383 with a 306 cam
i was told the car would be able to adjust itself better with maf
You need a custom tune esp with that cam.
Even a MAF setup could not "self adjust " for that much overlap
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pcm for less tuned the car and im still running too rich... im getting 7 mpg and the smell is horrible
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pcm for less tuned the car and im still running too rich... im getting 7 mpg and the smell is horrible
Get them to redo it.
not exactly a radical combo
have you datalogged to see exactly what engine is doing?
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i hooked up the snap on tool and it said is couldnt connect to the computer? i think i may have some deeper issues
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i called pcm for less and they told me to datalog it but when i told them i had trouble connecting to the computer they said to fix that problem first because they have never messed up on a tune before
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i called pcm for less and they told me to datalog it but when i told them i had trouble connecting to the computer they said to fix that problem first because they have never messed up on a tune before
I also suspect that rather than MAP fueling your problem may be that with the big exh overlap
on the 306 cam ;fresh air is going out the exh
and fooling the O2 sensor into thinking engine is lean so it adds more fuel trying to correct
a problem that isn't there
Worse at idle and low revs; makes your eyes water @ idle is common comment
Some have had to tune for open loop to overcome this problem
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I also suspect that rather than MAP fueling your problem may be that with the big exh overlap
on the 306 cam ;fresh air is going out the exh
and fooling the O2 sensor into thinking engine is lean so it adds more fuel trying to correct
a problem that isn't there
Worse at idle and low revs; makes your eyes water @ idle is common comment
Some have had to tune for open loop to overcome this problem
well that seems to hit the nail on the head..at higher rpm the car does great but at idle and low rpm is where my problems are. what would you recommend me to do? iv been trying to fix the connection problems with the OBD1 but im having no luck..
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I also suspect that rather than MAP fueling your problem may be that with the big exh overlap
on the 306 cam ;fresh air is going out the exh
and fooling the O2 sensor into thinking engine is lean so it adds more fuel trying to correct
a problem that isn't there
Worse at idle and low revs; makes your eyes water @ idle is common comment
Some have had to tune for open loop to overcome this problem
also would the tune not fix this problem? i figured they would be able to tune the car so it is not trying to correct somthing that isnt there...
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Originally Posted by 2outlaw1993
i figured they would be able to tune the car so it is not trying to correct somthing that isnt there...
The low speed overlap problem can't really be "tuned" out because in closed loop the tune relies
heavily on accurate feedback from the O2 sensor and if O2 is being "fooled" into thinking engine
is lean when it is not......................

As noted
many with your problem get the tune done Open Loop @ idle only
where it has fixed fueling like a carb engine and does not rely on interacting with the O2 sensor

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/-124...nglepost8.html

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/di...op-tuning.html

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/di...questions.html

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