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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 02:50 AM
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Hi guys just shooting this out there, has anyone found a pistolgrip auto shift **** for a c-4 and if so some pics would be sweeet. I seen some for a c-3 auto it was a hurst but there web site diden't show anything for an auto that looked close, it looked like a manual pistol shift **** but it had a button on the top for the auto trans please help.
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several members have installed the B&M version, it requires some fabrication to work. I bought and installed one in mine but the shifter handle was to tall for my taste, but it did work well. There are several threads on here with pictures and good tech info. If its something you would like , its your car. The only issue is that they are not a direct fit for your consol. This is the thread that I used for tech. its excellent , Mseven did nice work.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...s-to-date.html
you will actually find several threads on the op's question, all with good tech. I'm surprised that the previous posters came in with the ridicule, its uncalled for.

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They do make a Hurst T-handle shifter for a C4.
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They do make a Hurst T-handle shifter for a C4.
post it , please
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I love the looks of the Pistol Grip, especially in the vintage Mopars, but I'm 6'-1" and I often use the top of the stock auto shift **** as a wrist rest for my right hand.
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Currently on ebay. I couldn't find the C4 AUTOMATIC specific shift handle. Maybe I was dreaming. Anyway, this could possibly be modified to work.

I have a friend with the Hurst T handle shifter on his ZF.

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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
several members have installed the B&M version, it requires some fabrication to work. I bought and installed one in mine but the shifter handle was to tall for my taste, but it did work well. There are several threads on here with pictures and good tech info. If its something you would like , its your car. The only issue is that they are not a direct fit for your consol. This is the thread that I used for tech. its excellent , Mseven did nice work.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...s-to-date.html
you will actually find several threads on the op's question, all with good tech. I'm surprised that the previous posters came in with the ridicule, its uncalled for.

This shows me that in 2009 people here were much more polite and actually interested in sharing helpful information. Apparently there were also more performance oriented members as well.

I whole-heartedly agree concerning the ridicule. I don't understand why it's so rampant in the C4 section and why the mods aren't more proactive in dealing with it. It was practically non-existent in the C5 section. With the price of the C4's being what it is, we have the potential to grow significantly as a community and be able to help each other out, but newbies can easily be scared off by having their first few posts hammered by people who just want to be jerks and have no other constructive comments.

As far as the OP is concerned, since the "pistol grip" shifter name was coined by Dodge/Plymouth for the 1970 model year it's been a very popular mod ever since. The Hurst and B&M T handle ***** are an attempt to make that feel and control available in a "universal" application. Since the stock auotmatic shifter sucks (yes, that's the correct techincal term ) I don't see any problem at all with threads concerning an improvement. Anything that would ratchet to prevent overshifting or missed shifts would be great. The B&M Starshifter and Megashifter both work well, but routing their cables (so that they don't burn or bind) is sometimes a nightmare.

I for one would love to see someone in the aftermarket attack this issue with a true bolt-in ratcheting shifter that would use the stock cable (and maybe even the stock boot) with a better **** that the small, slippery, kind of round one that we are stuck with. I nice T handle (my preference) or a good pistol grip would be great. I've been looking at converting over a shifter from a 90 or so Firebird since they at least have a good T handle. I was thinking of trying to combine that with the ratcheting mechanism from a B&M to make it worth the work of converting.

At least this is something you can hold on to:

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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
several members have installed the B&M version, it requires some fabrication to work. I bought and installed one in mine but the shifter handle was to tall for my taste, but it did work well. There are several threads on here with pictures and good tech info. If its something you would like , its your car. The only issue is that they are not a direct fit for your consol. This is the thread that I used for tech. its excellent , Mseven did nice work.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...s-to-date.html
you will actually find several threads on the op's question, all with good tech. I'm surprised that the previous posters came in with the ridicule, its uncalled for.
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This shows me that in 2009 people here were much more polite and actually interested in sharing helpful information. Apparently there were also more performance oriented members as well.

I whole-heartedly agree concerning the ridicule. I don't understand why it's so rampant in the C4 section and why the mods aren't more proactive in dealing with it. It was practically non-existent in the C5 section. With the price of the C4's being what it is, we have the potential to grow significantly as a community and be able to help each other out, but newbies can easily be scared off by having their first few posts hammered by people who just want to be jerks and have no other constructive comments.

As far as the OP is concerned, since the "pistol grip" shifter name was coined by Dodge/Plymouth for the 1970 model year it's been a very popular mod ever since. The Hurst and B&M T handle ***** are an attempt to make that feel and control available in a "universal" application. Since the stock auotmatic shifter sucks (yes, that's the correct techincal term ) I don't see any problem at all with threads concerning an improvement. Anything that would ratchet to prevent overshifting or missed shifts would be great. The B&M Starshifter and Megashifter both work well, but routing their cables (so that they don't burn or bind) is sometimes a nightmare.

I for one would love to see someone in the aftermarket attack this issue with a true bolt-in ratcheting shifter that would use the stock cable (and maybe even the stock boot) with a better **** that the small, slippery, kind of round one that we are stuck with. I nice T handle (my preference) or a good pistol grip would be great. I've been looking at converting over a shifter from a 90 or so Firebird since they at least have a good T handle. I was thinking of trying to combine that with the ratcheting mechanism from a B&M to make it worth the work of converting.

At least this is something you can hold on to:

The reason for the ridicule is the OP posted in another thread bashing on some things here and that's all i'll say about that. A mod here actually replied about how stupid his remarks were and we'll leave it at that. Like the old saying goes, "Treat people the way you would like to be treated"
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Originally Posted by 96 Vette CE
The reason for the ridicule is the OP posted in another thread bashing on some things here and that's all i'll say about that. A mod here actually replied about how stupid his remarks were and we'll leave it at that. Like the old saying goes, "Treat people the way you would like to be treated"
Well said, plus we seem to be getting a lot of very thin skinned easily butt-hurt members now
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Originally Posted by Sweet 90
Well said, plus we seem to be getting a lot of very thin skinned easily butt-hurt members now
That's what we get for repealing "Don't ask, don't tell"...
Old Mar 7, 2012 | 04:31 PM
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It's all good If the people don't understand that this is a forum site and is formed from personal opinion that is there problem. If they what to take offence at a personal comment on here they must not understand the whole forum concept.
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I'll add this: the stock auto shifter also has the advantage of the button moving down when out of overdrive. With your hand wrapped around the shaft and your thumb on top of the button, you know immediately when you shift out of the manual mode and into OD. This worked really well for me in the canyons when downshifting the 4L60E into the corners and upshifting out of them. If the button popped up, I knew I had gone one detent too far and either left it there if it was a long straight-away, or dropped it back into D if the next turn was coming up.

Except for the somewhat, mundane appearance, I can't find any fault with the stock shifter. Sure the pistol grip would look neat, but it sure would stick up a lot further than the stock shifter, unless you had the one similiar to the fifth gen camaro's and those are shorty, downsized versions compared to the big wood-gripped original.
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Originally Posted by mcm95403
This shows me that in 2009 people here were much more polite and actually interested in sharing helpful information. Apparently there were also more performance oriented members as well.
Back in 2001-2003 there were tons of good people. Trouble is they ended up getting in arguments with the types you describe and they got fed up and left. There are still a few good people around but not nearly as many as their used to be. Being said though, we had some "special' people then who aren't around anymore so it does go both ways.

I whole-heartedly agree concerning the ridicule. I don't understand why it's so rampant in the C4 section and why the mods aren't more proactive in dealing with it. It was practically non-existent in the C5 section. With the price of the C4's being what it is, we have the potential to grow significantly as a community and be able to help each other out, but newbies can easily be scared off by having their first few posts hammered by people who just want to be jerks and have no other constructive comments.
Pistol grip shifter is not my thing, but then again I've done a lot of stuff on my car that is not other people's thing so who am I to judge. There are far too many keyboard warriors on here (and every other forum) who would rather start a fight and argue a moot point than actually help somebody. I have to wonder if half the jerks act that way in person or if they suddenly get infinitely braver when they get behind a keyboard and there is no fear of somebody just hauling off and punching them?
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Here is my kustom pistol grip shifter. Im sure you could replicate. Step 1. Get pistol, step 2 duct tape...
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Originally Posted by rithsleeper
Here is my kustom pistol grip shifter. Im sure you could replicate. Step 1. Get pistol, step 2 duct tape...

Why bother with duct tape? Just mod a magazine and mount it to the shift lever. Then you have a quick release when you stop off at the range
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Originally Posted by rithsleeper
Here is my kustom pistol grip shifter. Im sure you could replicate. Step 1. Get pistol, step 2 duct tape...
Step 3, remove switch panel for gun clearance. Step 4, make sure it's unloaded (unless you're really, really hating on your C4, then go ahead and shoot!). Step 5. Keep your hands on the wheel when you're getting pulled over.
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A gun does no good if it ain't loaded. That's my drivin gun. What if I see a street sign that ain't got no holes?

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Originally Posted by rithsleeper
A gun does no good if it ain't loaded. That's my drivin gun. What if I see a street sign that ain't got no holes?
Do those exist? They don't in Texas, that's for damn sure. Rural mailboxes too.

The pistol grip on the old Mopars was classy. I'm just not seeing how it would compliment a C4 interior. Maybe I'd have to see it in person to appreciate it.
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Why not go really old-school mopar and install the push-button shifter?
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Originally Posted by dukeallen
Why not go really old-school mopar and install the push-button shifter?
Gotta be an old Savoy around in the boneyard somewhere....



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